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24 minutes ago, highlandcowden said:

ill assume someones shouting fake news

The top picture is definitely from 2013

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25215691

The bottom picture is definitely not genuine. But it doesn't mean the overall scenario was not similar

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49 minutes ago, ICTChris said:

Both South Korea and Germany have had to reimpose at least partial lockdowns due to further outbreaks after easing.

South Korea does not have and has never had anything that can even be referred to as a partial lockdown.

The BBC seemed to be reporting earlier that Korea had ordered a closure of bars. I texted one of my mates in Seoul about an hour ago to ask him how he was coping with no boozer.

He texted me back a picture of himself with his pint from Shenanigans in Itaewon.

Schools are closed in South Korea, but that's about it.

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23 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

The top picture is definitely from 2013

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25215691

If it is fake news, its the bottom picture

It's probably the same guy who put the place names and dates on both pictures to make it look like the other side is faking the news.

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1 hour ago, Am Featha *****h Nan Clach said:

 I don't care about the ins and outs of more people than necessary making a journey.  No one I know, including myself, has stuck to the guidelines 100% so I wouldn't make any sort of moral judgement. I just find it incredible that anyone would see food shopping as some sort of leisure activity

If your options are severely limited, it's something to do.

As of tomorrow , I can go to La Rochelle and pinic on the beach if I so wish.

I don't wish at present.

100 km travel distance rule. No documents required. Masks in certain situations.

I shall be going out and about.  I shall be masked, to make others feel more comfortable rather than self protection but hey, you never know.

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Just now, JTS98 said:

South Korea does not have and has never had anything that can even be referred to as a partial lockdown.

The BBC seemed to be reporting earlier that Korea had ordered a closure of bars. I texted one of my mates in Seoul about an hour ago to ask him how he was coping with no boozer.

He texted me back a picture of himself with his pint from Shenanigans in Itaewon.

Schools are closed in South Korea, but that's about it.

The BBC have jumped on and sensationalised a lot over the last few weeks when it comes to countries extending or reintroducing lockdown measures, most of which was untrue.

It will be interesting to see how the reporting of  what is happening in other countries changes if and when BJ decides to ease some restrictions here.

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2 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

The BBC have jumped on and sensationalised a lot over the last few weeks when it comes to countries extending or reintroducing lockdown measures, most of which was untrue.

It will be interesting to see how the reporting of  what is happening in other countries changes if and when BJ decides to ease some restrictions here.

Sky News.

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More than 2,100 nightclubs, hostess bars and discos in South Korea's capital have been shut after 18 new coronavirus cases - with all but one linked to a 29-year-old man.

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-2-000-bars-shut-in-seoul-as-18-new-covid-19-cases-linked-to-one-man-11985686

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47 minutes ago, Thereisalight.. said:

I really don’t like to see people wearing masks in supermarkets etc. I know it’s for protection, but I just find it a bit “scary” and like the apocalypse is coming.  It’s also a bad reminder of when my mum and I had to wear them to go in and see my dad before he passed away. I do think they’ll become more prevalent as the rules are relaxed 

Are you saying you’d rather people didn’t wear them going forward? Or that you’re happy for people to wear them but just personally don’t like the look of them?

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Britons urged to shine a light from windows on Tuesday in tribute to nurses on coronavirus frontline which will also mark 200th anniversary of Florence Nightingale's birth

Hope you've all got your torches ready.

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8 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said:

The BBC have jumped on and sensationalised a lot over the last few weeks when it comes to countries extending or reintroducing lockdown measures, most of which was untrue.

It will be interesting to see how the reporting of  what is happening in other countries changes if and when BJ decides to ease some restrictions here.

Follow-up texts confirm Seoul's nightlife is open but quiet. At least in Itaewon and Kyeongnidan.

Mind you, my mates aren't the type to be battering into hostess bars. But the normal circuit of boozers etc is 100% open. I've seen the pictures.

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1 hour ago, coprolite said:

What about an ill fitting mask worn by an unwashed dunderhead that thinks their mask is like iron man's suit? Will that work? 

No fear of masks here. They're probably very useful. 

I do fear morons. 

Can you provide an example of behaviour that suggests 'thinking their mask is like Iron Man's suit'? I'm genuinely not sure what people who make this argument could be referring to.

Otherwise your fear of morons should only be heightened by the current situation, in which you're supposedly dependent on them to keep a magical two metre distance from you at all times without even a single credible effort at limiting the spread of infection. If we were talking about lowering protection requirements from a full Hazmat suit to a cloth mask then your concerns would be logical; but masks improve protection at a society level compared to the stack of useless and enormously disruptive nonsense that people are bizarrely attached to doing right now.

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Masks are essential wear if you want to go anywhere in Malaysia just now.

I saw an English guy being refused entry to a shopping centre yesterday because he had turned up with no mask on and at the temperature check station he refused to put on the mask they offered to him.

He refused to back down so they just wouldn't let him in. His missus looked mortified. Felt bad for her.

It seems beyond doubt now that masks have at least some benefit in terms of limiting the spray from coughing etc. To refuse to wear one seems bizarre. But that's people for you.

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2 hours ago, pozbaird said:

The question I would have for anyone jumping into a campervan heading from anywhere to the highlands is simple - what the fcuk are you going to do when you get there? I mean, I enjoy a day trip to St Andrews or Largs as much as the next guy, but even if I thought ‘fcuk it’ and decided to go tomorrow, what the actual fcuk would I do when I got there? No Nardinis, no restaurants, no cafes, no golf shops in St Andrews, no watching the golfers on the Old Course, no Bosuns Table at Largs Yacht Marina, no fish & chips.... no point. Whatsoever. Normally, in good weather, both are vibrant cheery places in which to spend a lovely day simply strolling around. Who wants to go when it would be completely abnormal, borderline depressing?

I would say you’re missing the point why the majority of people buy campervans and go to the highlands 

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6 minutes ago, Snafu said:

Did he have a beard?

No. A boy in his 50s with a shaved head. One of these types who's a combination of quite muscly and quite fat. A short guy.

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2 hours ago, virginton said:

What, Italy with a lower death toll than the UK? A country whose case rate in Bergamo and Lombardy was hundreds of times higher than Rome and the entire south?

The Italian health authorities allowed the filming of crisis scenes inside hospitals in Bergamo to raise wider European awareness of their plight. The reason that you don't see similar pictures from the UK is because they don't let TV crews waltz into an ICU, ever. That doesn't show that 'the lockdown has been successful', even by the ever shifting goalposts that you keep using for it.

Our ICUs haven't been overwhelmed like the pictures we saw ie we didn't need to refuse people treatment because we were out of resources. Afaik that was the measure of success the tories were using to pat themselves on the back with and was the whole point of the lockdown in the first place 

Plus the general consensus is the lockdown has lowered the r0

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4 hours ago, Granny Danger said:

I agree with much of this, including people being wary about socialising in public.   One thing I’m not sure about is people’s personal finances.

Don’t get me wrong, there will be some people hit really, really badly but the majority will either still be working or furloughed on 80% or full pay.

Also folk who go out regularly will have saved quite a lot because of the lockdown.

The aggregate effect, therefore, might not be as bad as you suggesting. 

I still get my wee railway pension and my wee statutory pension plus I'm only paying a food bill once a week instead of every day.

The problem, as I see it, me being in the vulnerable group, when can I go outside and spend my wee windfall?

 

16 minutes ago, cyderspaceman said:

Hope you've all got your torches ready.

 

I've run oot o' batteries - HELP!

 

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