Robin.Hood Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Just now, Miguel Sanchez said: In theory, masks work. In theory. If worn correctly..... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
8MileBU Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 15 minutes ago, heedthebaa said: Aye I’ll give you that Wull Is that a threat or a promise? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dee Man Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Wee Bully said: Where is @Todd_is_God ? Died of the Rona. RIP TIG. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 For the first time during this pandemic i think I'm against the government response to this.Going back into lockdown seems like such a heavy handed move, and I reckon it won't be complied with by a large minority of people (rendering it much less effective).Surely we have to plug away with the system we've got. It's not ideal, but masks and other measures are keeping the spread lower than it would be otherwise. On top of that, our hospitals are much better placed to deal with the patients who do arrive.I just don't think the public will support this. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 For the first time during this pandemic i think I'm against the government response to this.Going back into lockdown seems like such a heavy handed move, and I reckon it won't be complied with by a large minority of people (rendering it much less effective).Surely we have to plug away with the system we've got. It's not ideal, but masks and other measures are keeping the spread lower than it would be otherwise. On top of that, our hospitals are much better placed to deal with the patients who do arrive.I just don't think the public will support this. It's going to be massively watered down though isnt it. I agree with what you are saying, I think folk breaking the current rules is at the heart of the issue and doing more to enforce them, rather than apply more rules that the same people wont follow is the way to go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 It's going to be massively watered down though isnt it. I agree with what you are saying, I think folk breaking the current rules is at the heart of the issue and doing more to enforce them, rather than apply more rules that the same people wont follow is the way to go. It has to be watered down, last time round about a month or so in many people began pushing the boundaries of what was technically allowed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Put schools on nightshift and pubs dayshift.Sorted 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 The public will start turning on each other if there are violations of any measures. The narrative has been well embedded that it's "scum" breaking the rules who are causing any flare ups, rather a government who have used the last 6 months to put in place the square root of bugger all in terms of building out infrastructure or control. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 33 minutes ago, NotThePars said: Fairly sure this has been run on the same day as the FT ran a big piece about how well Japan have coped because of mask usage and other measures. Just terrific stuff. The BBC allowed an anti-masker on to rant on the radio at lunchtime, uninterrupted and unchallenged, for a good five / six minutes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 The BBC allowed an anti-masker on to rant on the radio at lunchtime, uninterrupted and unchallenged, for a good five / six minutes.I dont get it at all. I have always considered anti vaxxers to be rockets, but I can understand concern over the covid on. What I absolutely do not get is the anti mask thing. It just seems like folk who are depserate to be anti something. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted September 21, 2020 Author Share Posted September 21, 2020 19 minutes ago, pandarilla said: For the first time during this pandemic i think I'm against the government response to this. Going back into lockdown seems like such a heavy handed move, and I reckon it won't be complied with by a large minority of people (rendering it much less effective). Surely we have to plug away with the system we've got. It's not ideal, but masks and other measures are keeping the spread lower than it would be otherwise. On top of that, our hospitals are much better placed to deal with the patients who do arrive. I just don't think the public will support this. It isn't going to be a return to the lockdown of March though. THere will be restrictions on visiting, restrictions on certain businesses and things like that but there isn't going to be an order to shut everything and only go out once a day. As has been posted on this thread before around two thirds of the public support a return to measures like those in March and April. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Gaz said: The BBC allowed an anti-masker on to rant on the radio at lunchtime, uninterrupted and unchallenged, for a good five / six minutes. "Everyone is entitled to their opinion" is one of the worst narratives to have emerged over the last 15-20 years. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 4 minutes ago, Bairnardo said: I dont get it at all. I have always considered anti vaxxers to be rockets, but I can understand concern over the covid on. What I absolutely do not get is the anti mask thing. It just seems like folk who are depserate to be anti something. 3 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: "Everyone is entitled to their opinion" is one of the worst narratives to have emerged over the last 15-20 years. The narrative seems to be "well five months ago we were told masks were pointless!" while conveniently forgetting that five months ago literally everyone but key workers should have been in their hoose for 23+ hours a day, so interaction with other folk was supposed to be at an absolute minimum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
effeffsee_the2nd Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 It isn't going to be a return to the lockdown of March though. THere will be restrictions on visiting, restrictions on certain businesses and things like that but there isn't going to be an order to shut everything and only go out once a day As has been posted on this thread before around two thirds of the public support a return to measures like those in March and April. Who are these people? Thats what gets me! Do they think that anyone who gets the virus will die? Or do they live in la la land where they think shutting down huge swathes of the economy is just like schools breaking up for the summer? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanius Mullarkey Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 1 minute ago, effeffsee_the2nd said: Who are these people? The unemployed I would imagine. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hillonearth Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: "Everyone is entitled to their opinion" is one of the worst narratives to have emerged over the last 15-20 years. Especially when that opinion is informed by that groundbreaking academic work "Coronavirus: A Load of Shite" produced by Professor Big Davie of Facebook University. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Szamo's_Ammo Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Yellow card for University of St Andrews. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaz Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 Has anyone checked whether the students play for the Uni's football or rugby teams? Just curious as to what sanctions will be placed upon them, if any. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 20 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: The public will start turning on each other if there are violations of any measures. The narrative has been well embedded that it's "scum" breaking the rules who are causing any flare ups, rather a government who have used the last 6 months to put in place the square root of bugger all in terms of building out infrastructure or control. Yep, nothing to do with them begging us to get the economy moving again, go out drinking, dining, shopping etc. If we'd all just follow the rules this wouldn't be spreading. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairnardo Posted September 21, 2020 Share Posted September 21, 2020 The narrative seems to be "well five months ago we were told masks were pointless!" while conveniently forgetting that five months ago literally everyone but key workers should have been in their hoose for 23+ hours a day, so interaction with other folk was supposed to be at an absolute minimum.Its mental. The effectiveness of masks really has never entered my head tbh. All I think on the matter is wearing masks = not queuing in the pishing rain to get in a shop, and that has to be a good thing. The downside of them is that they are a very mild inconvenience, the medical upside of them is perhaps unclear and might well be small, but the downside is nowhere near enough to justify the amount of shit that goes with them 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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