renton Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) Apart from, I think, construction then with education shut we are already quite close to the March lockdown state, give or take supermarket distancing etiquette. If what we are seeing is a spike due to mixing over Christmas, increased retail use over the busy period leading to Christmas then it should be controllable by current restrictions. If you assume the "new" strain becomes dominant though, then I doubt you'll see education back on the 18th. Certainly not secondary or tertiary education anyway. On the basis that the younger you are, the less transmission you get (allowing for 56% more across all age groups) you might get primary and early years care back in person at least some of the time. However, I'd guess we'd need the JCVI list vaccinated before they risk the secondary schools going back. Edited December 30, 2020 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, Scotty Tunbridge said: fan fucking tastic. Just examples I certainly hope none of them happen 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Scotty Tunbridge said: fan fucking tastic. It's shite but it's also January and most people will have done similar in the past anyway either due to being skint or one of those years where it pished with rain every single day. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Detournement Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, renton said: Apart from, I think, construction then with education shut we are already quite close to the March lockdown state, give or take supermarket distancing etiquette. If what we are seeing is a spike due to mixing over Christmas, increased retail use over the busy period leading to Christmas then it should be controllable by current restrictions. It's still too early to see a spike from Christmas. It's from the shops being busy here and it's going mental down South because the pubs and restaurants were open. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 So, minutes after announcing that 78% of England will be in Tier 4 from tomorrow, with the rest in Tier 3, (and 52,000 new cases today alone).....Gavin Williamson comes on to trumpet that schools will open next Monday......its all about the kids mental health, and them being more at risk of catching it in the community, rather than a classroom of 30 apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 100% testing or schools shut 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Facebook "mom's" a bawhair from demanding national musical statues. Also "any thing" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Think they were way back in March/April, certainly the ones around me were They definitely weren’t forced to close. I had several chippies in lockdown. Places like McDonald’s voluntarily closed though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Might see the end of support bubbles in a harsher lockdown. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 6 minutes ago, Rob1885 said: Might see the end of support bubbles in a harsher lockdown. There are a few folk absolutely ripping the arse out the support bubbles. Its like most things though, there’s always a small minority of arseholes to ruin something. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Two hospitalisations in the entirety of the AZ test programme. Both within the first 10 days so likely infection was already in system before vaccine was administered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 So 92k now vaccinated in Scotland with 8.2% of the UK supply allocated to us which is pro rata on population. AZ starts on Monday with all groups down to over 50s to have had a first shot by the end of Spring. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: So 92k now vaccinated in Scotland with 8.2% of the UK supply allocated to us which is pro rata on population. AZ starts on Monday with all groups down to over 50s to have had a first shot by the end of Spring. What are we defining as end of spring, end of May? How many people would be over 50 or having underlying conditions? Given how risk averse the Scottish Government have been and the likes of Sridhar fantasising about "zero covid" that rate of vaccination doesn't fill me with a great deal of hope. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 What are we defining as end of spring, end of May? How many people would be over 50 or having underlying conditions? Given how risk averse the Scottish Government have been and the likes of Sridhar fantasising about "zero covid" that rate of vaccination doesn't fill me with a great deal of hope.It's all over 50s, conditions or not in that timescale Freeman gave. No numbers or more specific dates just end Spring so yes that technically is end May 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Marshmallo said: What are we defining as end of spring, end of May? How many people would be over 50 or having underlying conditions? Given how risk averse the Scottish Government have been and the likes of Sridhar fantasising about "zero covid" that rate of vaccination doesn't fill me with a great deal of hope. End of Spring will be end of May, but you shouldn't need to get down to the over 50s to eliminate the 99% of deaths and hospitalisations. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 (edited) 'Schools are safe, the issue is mixing within schools of households in high infection areas.' Our PM ladies and gentlemen. Edited December 30, 2020 by djchapsticks 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Summer in Scotland is May June and July. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marshmallo Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, renton said: End of Spring will be end of May, but you shouldn't need to get down to the over 50s to eliminate the 99% of deaths and hospitalisations. I completely agree but that logic went out the window in the summer with the "zero covid" horse shit when we were in single figure case numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: 'Schools are safe, the issue is mixing within schools of households in high infection areas.' Our PM ladies and gentlemen. Hope he goes sooner rather than later 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Distant Doonhamer Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Not looking great just now, case wise. Positivity rate is massive still and now up to 1100 in hospitalYep it is a real concern but worth noting we had more than that in hospital as recently as mid to late November. Currently 69 in ICU compared to the 220 earlier in the year. I’m fully expecting numbers to keep increasing in the short to medium term but not without hope that we don’t get overwhelmed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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