Todd_is_God Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 12 minutes ago, djchapsticks said: Absolute madness to even suggest any sort of restrictions continuing following rollout of an effective vaccine. Everything should at that point be open without further restriction or threat of restrictions. Otherwise what are we actually doing this for and where and when will it ever end? Lockdowns and restrictions are a means to an end. The vaccine is that end. That's what we've been told since day one, 'we will never be truly free of restrictions until a vaccine is available'. To pare that back to a revised 'we have an effective vaccine but more restrictions are needed until we know more in regards to if it protects further spread' was never an option and is simply not viable. The point of restrictions was to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed and people needlessly dying. At this point in the proceedings, they cannot now just decide that its suddenly to prevent everyone dying or to set new conditions at their discretion. And yet, when they do, no one (and really this applies mostly to the media) pushes back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 58 minutes ago, Ron Aldo said: I've never considered myself to be one of those mad conspiracy theorists but if the government even remotely considers keeping restrictions in place when it's clear they're no longer required then my tinfoil hat will be firmly on. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 And yet, when they do, no one (and really this applies mostly to the media) pushes back.It was in fact the exact opposite on Sky tonight. The umpteenth boffin today wheeled out to be "guided" gently by the news anchor saying (paraphrased) "but surely we can't just stop mask wearing and social distancing once the vulnerable have been vaccinated " when he seemed to be veering towards that stance. He quickly came round to that viewpoint once steered in the right direction I suppose looking at it logically they might have a vested interest in keeping us all news watching in the form of viewing figs - it's either that or an attempt to keep the majority onside during the rollout although it looks a policy likely to backfire surely ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy Jean King Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 That is still utter nonsense 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Just now, Billy Jean King said: 7 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: That is still utter nonsense I wasn't advocating it btw. I just expect to see a lot more of him again should the scenario Ron Aldo mentions play out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 2 minutes ago, Billy Jean King said: It was in fact the exact opposite on Sky tonight. The umpteenth boffin today wheeled out to be "guided" gently by the news anchor saying (paraphrased) "but surely we can't just stop mask wearing and social distancing once the vulnerable have been vaccinated " when he seemed to be veering towards that stance. He quickly came round to that viewpoint once steered in the right direction I suppose looking at it logically they might have a vested interest in keeping us all news watching in the form of viewing figs - it's either that or an attempt to keep the majority onside during the rollout although it looks a policy likely to backfire surely ? It's a fine balance. Keeping people onside is obviously important until the bulk of the vaccines for the most at risk are done, but if they make people feel for too long like it's not going to make a great difference to restrictions once that's achieved, they risk making people just go "f**k it" Clarity and a realistic routemap are needed urgently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted December 30, 2020 Author Share Posted December 30, 2020 One year ago today, the first press release was issued by the Wuhan Health Commission about cases of a novel pneumonia connected to a seafood market.This was the first reference to the pandemic in the media. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 5 minutes ago, ICTChris said: One year ago today, the first press release was issued by the Wuhan Health Commission about cases of a novel pneumonia connected to a seafood market. This was the first reference to the pandemic in the media. "Emergency notification of Wuhan Municipal Health Commission on reporting the treatment of unexplained pneumonia. All relevant medical institutions: According to the emergency notification from the superior, patients with pneumonia of unknown cause have appeared one after another in the South China Seafood Market in our city. In order to do a good job in response, all units are requested to immediately check the statistics of unexplained pneumonia patients with similar characteristics that have been received in the past week, and submit the statistical form (seal and scan) to the Municipal Health Commission before 4 pm today Mailbox of the Medical Administration Office. Contact: Mao Bing 85697893 Li Ying 85690943" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 "Emergency notification of Wuhan Municipal Health Commission on reporting the treatment of unexplained pneumonia. All relevant medical institutions: According to the emergency notification from the superior, patients with pneumonia of unknown cause have appeared one after another in the South China Seafood Market in our city. In order to do a good job in response, all units are requested to immediately check the statistics of unexplained pneumonia patients with similar characteristics that have been received in the past week, and submit the statistical form (seal and scan) to the Municipal Health Commission before 4 pm today Mailbox of the Medical Administration Office. Contact: Mao Bing 85697893 Li Ying 85690943"Someone better phone them and let them know. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Todd_is_God Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 1 minute ago, D.A.F.C said: 4 minutes ago, Todd_is_God said: "Emergency notification of Wuhan Municipal Health Commission on reporting the treatment of unexplained pneumonia. All relevant medical institutions: According to the emergency notification from the superior, patients with pneumonia of unknown cause have appeared one after another in the South China Seafood Market in our city. In order to do a good job in response, all units are requested to immediately check the statistics of unexplained pneumonia patients with similar characteristics that have been received in the past week, and submit the statistical form (seal and scan) to the Municipal Health Commission before 4 pm today Mailbox of the Medical Administration Office. Contact: Mao Bing 85697893 Li Ying 85690943" Someone better phone them and let them know. Nah, It's 7:14 am 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Nah, It's 7:14 amYoure right, should be ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Mental how this has been going on for a year and how much warzone I've ended up playing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob1885 Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 Mental how this has been going on for a year and how much warzone I've ended up playing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Jedi Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 So, the latest schools approach is basically...bung 33 kids into a small classroom for the day. However, once they leave the gates at the end of the day, they cannot go into anyone's else's house, and if they want to meet anyone else, can only do so if its 1 person......and its outside. Makes perfect sense....after all school buildings are still safer than the 'community' it seems. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipa Posted December 30, 2020 Share Posted December 30, 2020 If all the over 50s are expected to have their first shot by late spring, so probably late May, 5 months away, and the time between shots is 4-12 weeks, or about 3 months, then presumably at least 40% of those are going to have had their 2nd shots. That would surely mean that front line health workers, over 65s, and those with underlying conditions will have mostly been fully vaccinated. If that is the case, surely we should be in level 0/1 restrictions at the very most, with higher restrictions only used if there is a particularly concerning outbreak? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamthebam Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just looking at the New Year "Honours" do you think it will be "arise Sir Clownshoes" this time next year.. (He already has a CBE) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 Just looking at the New Year "Honours" do you think it will be "arise Sir Clownshoes" this time next year.. (He already has a CBE)CBE in his case means Clown Boot Ersehole 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
101 Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 2 hours ago, Billy Jean King said: 2 hours ago, Todd_is_God said: That is still utter nonsense It had turned the vast majority of people's working life on its head forever it's not a prediction it's actually happened. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shipa Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 1 minute ago, 101 said: It had turned the vast majority of people's working life on its head forever it's not a prediction it's actually happened. Thing is of course that at the start of lockdown, March/April time, there seemed to be a vibe that life was different and potentially better, maybe we could change how we live, but as soon as things started to open up everyone wanted back to the old normal, and now it is very much that way, there are restricions in place right now but most people just seem to want back to their old lives, no matter how bad they were. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted December 31, 2020 Share Posted December 31, 2020 I get my 1st Pfizer vaccine jab today (31st). All it does is reduce the chance that I won’t get sick if I get covid. It’s possible for me to still get the virus, carry it and pass it onto others. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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