Coronavirus (COVID-19)

[Todd_is_God]

I refuse to believe that 1.4% of the population in Scotland has Post Viral Fatigue, never mind PVF brought on by Covid.

Nor do I believe that the total number of "Long Covid" cases is equal to 13.6% of the total number of covid cases.

Who genuinely believes these figures and, perhaps more interestingly, why do they lie like this?

On a different note, good to see week on week case numbers fall again today after the slight rise yesterday.

Edited October 7, 2021 by Todd_is_God

[Billy Jean King]

I refuse to believe that 1.4% of the population in Scotland has Post Viral Fatigue, never mind PVF brought on by Covid.
Nor do I believe that the total number of "Long Covid" cases is equal to 13.6% of the total number of covid cases.
Who genuinely believes these figures and, perhaps more interestingly, why do they lie like this?
On a different note, good to see week on week case numbers fall again today after the slight rise yesterday.

And that's the "opposition". Similarity on last night's BBC Scotland equivalent of QT the labour representative on the panel said the alternative to vaccine passports was "testing, testing and more testing". He then went on to quote the WHO and said we need to test far more on a daily basis despite currently already testing (checks notes...) around 1in 100 of the entire population on a near daily basis.

[TheScarf]

I probably know 15 people who have had Covid and not one of them has any long term symptoms.  Everyone I've asked say they feel 'absolutely fine'.  I must just know lots of healthy people.

[Detournement]

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2021/oct/07/unvaccinated-footballers-putting-lives-at-risk-maybe-its-time-to-stop-picking-them-covid

Max Rushden who is the human equivalent of a mid tier chain restaurant wants players to be banned from playing if they don't get vaccinated.

 

[Guest Flash]

4 hours ago, Billy Jean King said:

Do Aberdeen regularly get under 10k for home games. Never realised their support had ebbed away that much even given their poor start.

Is this how the scheme works ? The organisers decide on the need based on an estimate of attendance and what happens if say 15k rock up or is this them saying they are restricting the crowd to 9999 in essence ?

The legislation applies to events ‘planned on the basis’ that the crowd will be over 10,000. Extract below, with a link to the full legislation underneath.

‘“relevant event” is an event, except an exempt event, that is planned on the basis—

that it will be attended by more than 10,000 people simultaneously,’

Legislation

The relevant stuff is in Regulations 7A to 7E in Part 2. Part 3 with all the stuff about crowd limits doesn’t apply anymore.

[Billy Jean King]

The legislation applies to events ‘planned on the basis’ that the crowd will be over 10,000. Extract below, with a link to the full legislation underneath.
‘“relevant event” is an event, except an exempt event, that is planned on the basis—
that it will be attended by more than 10,000 people simultaneously,’
Legislation
The relevant stuff is in Regulations 7A to 7E in Part 2. Part 3 with all the stuff about crowd limits doesn’t apply anymore.

So it's a perfect get out clause for Aberdeen here. Just announce you "expect" a sub 10k crowd and then after it's announced as 14k (for example) the club just shrug and say Wow didn't expect that.

[Detournement]

1 hour ago, Billy Jean King said:

2 hours ago, Flash said:

The legislation applies to events ‘planned on the basis’ that the crowd will be over 10,000. Extract below, with a link to the full legislation underneath.
‘“relevant event” is an event, except an exempt event, that is planned on the basis—
that it will be attended by more than 10,000 people simultaneously,’
Legislation
The relevant stuff is in Regulations 7A to 7E in Part 2. Part 3 with all the stuff about crowd limits doesn’t apply anymore.

So it's a perfect get out clause for Aberdeen here. Just announce you "expect" a sub 10k crowd and then after it's announced as 14k (for example) the club just shrug and say Wow didn't expect that.

Aberdeen are already in the bad books with Nippy. They might be trying to bait her into cancelling more games to help out Glass. 

Edited October 7, 2021 by Detournement

[KingswellsRed]

It is an interesting one because we clearly sell well over 10k tickets for every game and usually announce the crowd as 13-15k however that attendance figure is based on tickets sold rather than actual numbers present. Thousands of season ticket holders have not been turning up this season. 800 is also about the average amount Hibs and Hearts have been bringing in recent seasons however with both teams doing well, I am sure the club are aware they are likely to come close to selling out their 1700 allocation.

[superbigal]

Daily Summary for @oaksoft :   Deaths 39(34 day before),  ICU cases 69 up 1  (11 new admissions),  In hospital with confirmed Covid  980 down 8  (84 admissions).    Not a great day again, with the morgue being extremely busy and ICU still rising regardless of those patients moving downstairs.

Figures for Jags.  1st Vaccines   5,492 to 4,936  2nd vaccines   2,451  to 2,205

Daily Cases Update: 27 days in a row of falls now with a  drop of 1% to 309.2 and I expect a further small fall tomorrow.  Think we are stuck at circa 300 for a while. Just 10 times higher than Spain & Italy.

For the 2nd day running there were 40,000 UK cases to which @Elixir thought a counting issue. Surely not for 2 days ? England must be set for a surge in a couple of days.

Total Cases Scotland 7 days 28th September to 4th October  were 17,074 to 16,899 down 1.03%, Positivity was 7.8% now 7.7%.  Cases per 100K were 312.4 now 309.2

Home Nations Daily Cases per 100K update  :  UK Average  343.9 to 340.9 down 0.87%, England  334.8  to 332.6 down 0.66%, Wales 512.4  to 495.0 down 3.40%, Northern Ireland   401.1 to 404.5 up 0.84%

In Europe for travellers (Countries Population over 3 Million) Serbia 565.8 (weekly change up 8%), Romania 389.6 (weekly up 56%), Croatia 216.3 (weekly up 12%), Moldova 205.5 (Weekly up 12%), Bulgaria 194.7 (Weekly up 24%),  Ireland  175.7 (Weekly  -4%),  These are the only countries over 150 cases per 100K.   

At the other end.   Poland 24.1, Spain 27.4, Italy 34.4, France 46.6, Germany 63.8 of the big fish.

Scotland  peaks in wave 4 at 817.1 for 1st Sep to 7th Sep, (UK was 392.1), Cases that day were 44,663 and positivity 12.5%

Scotland peaks in Wave 3 at 425.1 for 27th June to 3rd July, (UK was 229.9) . Cases that day were 23,222 and positivity 10.8%

Scotland  peaked in wave 2 at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1)    Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9%  

Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 
https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

West Lothian   476.0 to 467.8  Our new leader is way out in front now.

North Lanarkshire  419.8 to 411.6

Dundee City 393.8 to 395.1

Falkirk  408.6 to 383.0  

East Ayrshire  377.5 to 375.8  

East Dunbartonshire   385.3 to 368.7  

South Lanarkshire    367.2 to 365.1  

East Renfrewshire   345.6 to 358.1  Up 5 spots  

Aberdeenshire   333.2 to 357.0  Up 5 spots as well.  

Stirling   355.0 to 355.0 

West Dunbartonshire   355.4 to 350.9  

Fife   353.4 to 350.4

Moray  307.2 to 336.4  Surging up 12 places in 3 days

North Ayrshire  360.5 to 335.2

Dumfries & Galloway   327.1 to 312.2 

Renfrewshire    319.4 to 311.6 

BELOW AVERAGE

South Ayrshire   354.9 to 308.5  Brilliant fall of 25% in 2 days.

Glasgow City   302.7 to 299.1  

Aberdeen City  268.5 to 280.3

Scottish  Borders    236.9 to 274.2  Up 15% in 1 day.

Clackmannanshire 280.8 to 263.2 

Midlothian  284.5 to 261.9

Perth & Kinross  251.5 to 250.8 

Argyll & Bute    243.5 to 243.5

Western Isles  294.3 to 241.5 

Inverclyde   280.3 to 233.6

East Lothian  228.9 to 213.2

Angus   188.2 to 211.5

City Of Edinburgh   198.4 to 196.4

Highlands    165.2 to 169.5

Shetland Islands    109.3 to 118.1

Orkney Islands   49.1 to 62.5

[Billy Jean King]

Daily Summary for [mention=8416]oaksoft[/mention] :   Deaths 39(34 day before),  ICU cases 69 up 1  (11 new admissions),  In hospital with confirmed Covid  980 down 8  (84 admissions).    Not a great day again, with the morgue being extremely busy and ICU still rising regardless of those patients moving downstairs.

Figures for Jags.  1st Vaccines   5,492 to 4,936  2nd vaccines   2,451  to 2,205

Daily Cases Update: 27 days in a row of falls now with a  drop of 1% to 309.2 and I expect a further small fall tomorrow.  Think we are stuck at circa 300 for a while. Just 10 times higher than Spain & Italy.

For the 2nd day running there were 40,000 UK cases to which [mention=56587]Elixir[/mention] thought a counting issue. Surely not for 2 days ? England must be set for a surge in a couple of days.

Total Cases Scotland 7 days 28th September to 4th October  were 17,074 to 16,899 down 1.03%, Positivity was 7.8% now 7.7%.  Cases per 100K were 312.4 now 309.2

Home Nations Daily Cases per 100K update  :  UK Average  343.9 to 340.9 down 0.87%, England  334.8  to 332.6 down 0.66%, Wales 512.4  to 495.0 down 3.40%, Northern Ireland   401.1 to 404.5 up 0.84%

In Europe for travellers (Countries Population over 3 Million) Serbia 565.8 (weekly change up 8%), Romania 389.6 (weekly up 56%), Croatia 216.3 (weekly up 12%), Moldova 205.5 (Weekly up 12%), Bulgaria 194.7 (Weekly up 24%),  Ireland  175.7 (Weekly  -4%),  These are the only countries over 150 cases per 100K.   

At the other end.   Poland 24.1, Spain 27.4, Italy 34.4, France 46.6, Germany 63.8 of the big fish.

Scotland  peaks in wave 4 at 817.1 for 1st Sep to 7th Sep, (UK was 392.1), Cases that day were 44,663 and positivity 12.5%

Scotland peaks in Wave 3 at 425.1 for 27th June to 3rd July, (UK was 229.9) . Cases that day were 23,222 and positivity 10.8%

Scotland  peaked in wave 2 at 301.9 for figures 29th Dec to 4th Jan, (UK was 642.1)    Cases that day were 16,496 and test positivity rate was 11.9%  

Council progress in last 24 Hours as follows.

Click cases by neighbourhood to see the spread on the geographical map. 
https://public.tableau.com/profile/phs.covid.19#!/vizhome/COVID-19DailyDashboard_15960160643010/Overview

West Lothian   476.0 to 467.8  Our new leader is way out in front now.

North Lanarkshire  419.8 to 411.6

Dundee City 393.8 to 395.1

Falkirk  408.6 to 383.0  

East Ayrshire  377.5 to 375.8  

East Dunbartonshire   385.3 to 368.7  

South Lanarkshire    367.2 to 365.1  

East Renfrewshire   345.6 to 358.1  Up 5 spots  

Aberdeenshire   333.2 to 357.0  Up 5 spots as well.  

Stirling   355.0 to 355.0 

West Dunbartonshire   355.4 to 350.9  

Fife   353.4 to 350.4

Moray  307.2 to 336.4  Surging up 12 places in 3 days

North Ayrshire  360.5 to 335.2

Dumfries & Galloway   327.1 to 312.2 

Renfrewshire    319.4 to 311.6 

BELOW AVERAGE

South Ayrshire   354.9 to 308.5  Brilliant fall of 25% in 2 days.

Glasgow City   302.7 to 299.1  

Aberdeen City  268.5 to 280.3

Scottish  Borders    236.9 to 274.2  Up 15% in 1 day.

Clackmannanshire 280.8 to 263.2 

Midlothian  284.5 to 261.9

Perth & Kinross  251.5 to 250.8 

Argyll & Bute    243.5 to 243.5

Western Isles  294.3 to 241.5 

Inverclyde   280.3 to 233.6

East Lothian  228.9 to 213.2

Angus   188.2 to 211.5

City Of Edinburgh   198.4 to 196.4

Highlands    165.2 to 169.5

Shetland Islands    109.3 to 118.1

Orkney Islands   49.1 to 62.5

Reading this with the football on and strange with Italy as low as you state that they still have quite heavily restricted crowds while the UK is pretty much back to normal. If they are not allowing full capacity with the tiny rates currently you wonder when they ever will.

[Detournement]

Canada banning unvaccinated people from planes, trains and federal employment. 

Just a conspiracy theory though.....

[Elixir]

3 hours ago, Detournement said:

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/blog/2021/oct/07/unvaccinated-footballers-putting-lives-at-risk-maybe-its-time-to-stop-picking-them-covid

Max Rushden who is the human equivalent of a mid tier chain restaurant wants players to be banned from playing if they don't get vaccinated.

He's just moved to Australia. Perfect fit for him.

[Elixir]

16 minutes ago, superbigal said:

For the 2nd day running there were 40,000 UK cases to which @Elixir thought a counting issue. Surely not for 2 days ? England must be set for a surge in a couple of days.

Something was certainly unusual about the apparent spike yesterday. It appears they're on the way back up again - which will probably be on the way back down in two or three weeks. That's what endemicity looks like.

 

[Michael W]

It's self-reported long covid time again! 

https://news.sky.com/story/covid-19-more-than-one-million-people-say-they-have-long-covid-ons-data-shows-12428159

There's a claim within the article that an estimated 405,000 people have had a Covid symptom for at least a year (therefore that's the long covid box ticked) . Anyone curious to know how many total cases the UK had encountered on this very day, 7th of October, one year ago? 

544,275 

https://www.itv.com/news/2020-10-07/uk-covid-19-cases-increase-by-14162-in-single-day

We really need to stop publishing this hypochondriac shite. 

Edited October 7, 2021 by Michael W

[Thereisalight..]

1 hour ago, Detournement said:

Canada banning unvaccinated people from planes, trains and federal employment. 

Just a conspiracy theory though.....

You'll know the answer to this. Did I hear on the radio earlier that Macron is mandating vaccines in Jan 2022? Remember the days France had a backbone? Oh wait

[anotherchance]

7 hours ago, oaksoft said:

Can't believe how many Aberdeen fans are upset about this announcement of theirs.

Many of them seem to actually WANT their club to kick out unvaccinated season ticket holders.

Bizarre behaviour.

We do have an awful lot of wet nappies in our support who don’t like us playing the game here, although I’d be surprised if this wasn’t replicated across the board with other clubs under similar circumstances.

The Hibs/Hearts games will likely be season defining and our biggest Saturday 3pm home games, and there’s no way Cormack is just writing them off and assuming we won’t get near 9.2k bodies in with 800 away fans at each. 

Wonder if Scot Gov might hit back and try and limit the capacity at 10k - in a way I hope they do try it, the club having a public spat with them over unwanted vaccine passport nonsense would be a fun distraction from the actual fitba.

[Melanius Mullarkey]

9 minutes ago, anotherchance said:

We do have an awful lot of wet nappies in our support who don’t like us playing the game here, although I’d be surprised if this wasn’t replicated across the board with other clubs under similar circumstances.

The Hibs/Hearts games will likely be season defining and our biggest Saturday 3pm home games, and there’s no way Cormack is just writing them off and assuming we won’t get near 9.2k bodies in with 800 away fans at each. 

Wonder if Scot Gov might hit back and try and limit the capacity at 10k - in a way I hope they do try it, the club having a public spat with them over unwanted vaccine passport nonsense would be a fun distraction from the actual fitba.

Probably end up in another embarrassing loss.

[williemillersmoustache]

 

14 minutes ago, anotherchance said:

We do have an awful lot of wet nappies in our support who don’t like us playing the game here, although I’d be surprised if this wasn’t replicated across the board with other clubs under similar circumstances.

The Hibs/Hearts games will likely be season defining and our biggest Saturday 3pm home games, and there’s no way Cormack is just writing them off and assuming we won’t get near 9.2k bodies in with 800 away fans at each. 

Wonder if Scot Gov might hit back and try and limit the capacity at 10k - in a way I hope they do try it, the club having a public spat with them over unwanted vaccine passport nonsense would be a fun distraction from the actual fitba.

I believe you've hit upon the nub of this.

If we weren't having a total mare on the field I doubt Dave would be doing this. Not after the total c**t he made of himself and the club last autumn demanding fans be allowed back, shortly before another 70k people died.

I've just about come to terms with him bringing in Scott Brown as club captain, I'm less keen on him channelling Jim Traynor for our comms.

[Todd_is_God]

I'm assuming @superbigal knows this but, contrary to the picture you'd get from reading his posts about morgues being very busy, deaths are very much on the way down.

[Elixir]

Should Sturgeon not be getting the influenza vaccine added to the passport scheme, then? Can't have people dying can we!