EdinburghLivi Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 56 minutes ago, craigkillie said: There's nothing at all appealing about it to bottom six Premiership clubs - less prize money for no tangible benefit. It's hypothetical as the prize money breakdown would presumably have to be agreed but it may be to these teams' long-term benefit if they believe they have a greater chance of staying up. Hover around 12th collecting +£1m and Old Firm money for eternity rather than drop into the Championship abyss and suffer the massive income loss. I imagine the 'decreased' prize money could still represent a small increase from season 19/20 as well, given the new TV deal. Edited June 8, 2020 by EdinburghLivi 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flood Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: There's nothing at all appealing about it to bottom six Premiership clubs - less prize money for no tangible benefit. Don't forget less gate money too from bottom 8 games.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 42 minutes ago, welshbairn said: I'm too thick, how would it affect Clyde? Apart from the bung. It is financially a bad move for us ( and everyone else in that division). Getting ourselves out of the bottom league was going to help us due to away crowds being more than a mini bus and Falkirk and PT have and will do that. Losing them means only Airdrie bring any sort of support and budgets have to be trimmed again as no one was expecting reconstruction in March. It would be good if we were in a position to ignore that, but we aren't and I would think that is true of several others. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 minutes ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: It is financially a bad move for us ( and everyone else in that division). Getting ourselves out of the bottom league was going to help us due to away crowds being more than a mini bus and Falkirk and PT have and will do that. Losing them means only Airdrie bring any sort of support and budgets have to be trimmed again as no one was expecting reconstruction in March. It would be good if we were in a position to ignore that, but we aren't and I would think that is true of several others. Fair enough. Nice to have someone appreciating having Falkirk in the league! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David W Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I wouldn't have minded Clyde supporting a 14-10-10-10 at the start of this. It is still very much a joke that teams were relegated. We would also have been in a division where we would have a fighting chance of the promotion playoffs. However, given that no-one has shown any solidarity with ourselves with their nonsense 14-14-14 and colts proposals, I would hope at this stage we would vote no. It will be a financial victory and also an enjoyable one (that's directed at Budge) if status quo is maintained. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 1 hour ago, craigkillie said: Would guess they will add the PPG approach explicitly into the rules from next season onwards. Wonder how many teams will over-water the pitch for some tactical postponements of games they expect to lose. It's the level of pettiness I would 100% support. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 (edited) 14 fundamentally doesn’t work for me, would rather have 16, play 15 x 2 then seven after a split. 14 has a split far too early in the season then it’s lopsided whatever you do after that. Edited June 8, 2020 by ropy 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 I also can't see 14 working very well. You either get a split of 7/7 where you've got 1 team left out each week, or you get a split of 8/6 where some teams in the league play more times than others. The way it is is fine for now. Don't have a problem with reconstruction but only if it's actually given proper consideration over some time and not just forced through because some fake-posh Edinburgh c***s are moaning like f**k. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 41 minutes ago, ropy said: 14 fundamentally doesn’t work for me, would rather have 16, play 15 x 2 then seven after a split. 14 has a split far too early in the season then it’s lopsided whatever you do after that. I liked the mad Belgian Jupiter League thing that everyone slagged off for being to complicated. Think they dropped it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted June 8, 2020 Share Posted June 8, 2020 4 hours ago, Green Day said: while hoovering up prepubescent talent by dangling bags of cash in front of their faithers. If Celtic hoover up all the young talent why do we still shop in the Scottish market? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 19 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: If Celtic hoover up all the young talent why do we still shop in the Scottish market? Did this even make sense in your head? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 8 minutes ago, LiviLion said: Did this even make sense in your head? FFS If Celtic all ready knew about Stuart Armstrong at a young age why wait until we've got to pay £2 million for him? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesM82 Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 5 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: If Celtic hoover up all the young talent why do we still shop in the Scottish market? Because your youth system isn't particularly good at identifying who will make it? .... Times is saying today that the reconstruction plans are doomed, and claiming that the SPFL board will move on from them at a board meeting tomorrow morning (Wednesday). "The governing body will hold a board meeting tomorrow morning and the chief executive, Neil Doncaster, is expected to discourage any further talk of reconstruction for the coming campaign, and send a message that the focus now must be on planning for a 12-team top tier to start on August 1." Rangers are apparently "relaxed about the time frame" for their plan, i.e. it wouldn't have been able to start in 2020/21 anyway due to the pandemic, and were "encouraged" by the "generally positive reaction" to it. Although obviously not having enough support to be voted through now. 2020/21 fixture list can't be finalised until UEFA say what they're doing with their competitions - they're supposed to be having a meeting next Wednesday. Championship clubs are "close to agreement" on a short season (either 18 or 27 games) starting in October. Nothing on the two lower leagues yet. Championship teams will still get their share of the collective pot in August. 2 million from Anderson likely to be paid/received this week. https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/scotland/hearts-moves-for-change-doomed-lz3zpf8jp 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theauldyin Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Really don't know how clubs will survive without the maroon pound. ! Oh wait their be no fans in the ground anyway. BYE HERTZ !! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 10 hours ago, PauloPerth said: You really think they're relevant comparisons? Given that they're all professional football leagues with a container ship's load of 'dead rubber games', they quite obviously are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Green Day Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 6 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: If Celtic hoover up all the young talent why do we still shop in the Scottish market? Because in many cases, per my story above, young players and/or their families get so annoyed with the situation with Celtic or Rangers that they move while still young. That doesnt mean that Celtic or Rangers cant or wont pay for that player several years later. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 f**k off with your colts pish 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobby Dossar Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 7 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said: If Celtic hoover up all the young talent why do we still shop in the Scottish market? Because they discard 95% of their youth players there are only there, as has been said previously as jersey fillers And both Celtic and Rangers shop in the Scottish market to weaken other teams to weaken them so that they are not a challenge to them 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D.A.F.C Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Clubs voting for colts is chucking their youth policy and scotlands national game in the bin for a few pennies.It's already been proven that teams will wipe the floor with them in the challenge cup.As stated they ruin hundreds of youth players careers every season. Every team can think of at least one player who moved there and disappeared when they were at a very promising part of their career. This will just allow them to strip teams of any young talent and then hoover up anyone decent to rot on their bench.Look at Lewis Morgan, total waste. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
San Starko Rover Posted June 9, 2020 Share Posted June 9, 2020 Given that they're all professional football leagues with a container ship's load of 'dead rubber games', they quite obviously are.Even ignoring their top league in 16 years working down south I’ve never heard any fans of English League 1 or 2 teams crying about meaningless games and wanting smaller divisions 24 teams in that division. The reality is playing each team 4 times a season is utterly shite but the top division smaller clubs are too reliant on away gates from the Ugly Sisters. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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