SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 If there was one answer to this question then it would have been found by now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverWolfe Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Comparing a team from 12 years ago to now is irrelevant in terms of the decline he posted about, what decline?What decline? In 2008, we nearly qualified automatically out of a group containing the 2 previous World Cup finalists having beaten one of them home and away. The last campaign we got utterly scudded by an average Russian team (twice) and a shite Kazakhstan team. We barely scraped past Cyprus and San Marino in 3 of those games as well.What decline?! ffs man, you’re at it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) 25 minutes ago, wastecoatwilly said: Comparing a team from 12 years ago to now is irrelevant in terms of the decline he posted about, what decline? If we are in the same position there is no decline,I get my optimism from the year without a defeat under Strachan but the SFA feck it and appointed McLeish. Blaming the coaches is just an excuse, it takes all the different parts to come together to be successful. But we are not in the same position if you compare us to other nations. Close to home, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland have all qualified for major tournaments since we did last. Countries like Belgium, Iceland and Finland have all done it too while we are sat at home on our scratchers. It’s not just a case of “we never qualified then and we haven’t qualified now so we’re not worse off” - it’s a case of not keeping up with countries that were previously on a par or inferior to us now pulling away and putting us to shame. Edited July 21, 2020 by AJF 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 9 minutes ago, Tartantony said: What decline? In 2008, we nearly qualified automatically out of a group containing the 2 previous World Cup finalists having beaten one of them home and away. The last campaign we got utterly scudded by an average Russian team (twice) and a shite Kazakhstan team. We barely scraped past Cyprus and San Marino in 3 of those games as well. What decline?! ffs man, you’re at it! This. For a snide throw-in decision we would have been through. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, Golden Gordon said: This. For a snide throw-in decision we would have been through. This is a joke, yes? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 I assume the decline is due to the failure to implement colt teams. Fucking idiot. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 3 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: This is a joke, yes? Was it not all a FIFA conspiracy to ensure that Italy made the tournament at Scotland's expense? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 Just now, Golden Gordon said: Was it not all a FIFA conspiracy to ensure that Italy made the tournament at Scotland's expense? That is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard. It was UEFA. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blootoon87 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 This is a joke, yes?I hope so. People seem to forget that we got out fair share of luck in that game. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Blootoon87 said: 11 minutes ago, DA Baracus said: This is a joke, yes? I hope so. People seem to forget that we got out fair share of luck in that game. And this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7032632.stm 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: And this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/internationals/7032632.stm Ah, so the claret strips were our downfall. Makes sense. First time in ages that I've seen Graeme Murty's name without the prefix: Rangers* Caretaker Manager. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacArab Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 (edited) On another topic... Doing the rounds on Twitter that Arbitration on the verge of being wrapped up and a decision could be made as soon as tonight, and if not, tomorrow. That would be good. Well impressed at how they have managed to kept his so quiet tbh. Edited July 21, 2020 by MacArab 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golden Gordon Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, MacArab said: On another topic... Doing the rounds on Twitter that Arbitration on the verge of being wrapped up and a decision could be made as soon as tonight, and if not, tomorrow. That would be good. Well impressed at how they have managed to kept his so quiet tbh. Thanks for the update, fingers crossed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dons_1988 Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, MacArab said: On another topic... Doing the rounds on Twitter that Arbitration on the verge of being wrapped up and a decision could be made as soon as tonight, and if not, tomorrow. That would be good. Well impressed at how they have managed to kept his so quiet tbh. You must be looking forward to getting the Dundee derby back in the diary? 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 2 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: You must be looking forward to getting the Dundee derby back in the diary? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 8 minutes ago, Dons_1988 said: You must be looking forward to getting the Dundee derby back in the diary? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wastecoatwilly Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, AJF said: But we are not in the same position if you compare us to other nations. Close to home, Wales, Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland have all qualified for major tournaments since we did last. Countries like Belgium, Iceland and Finland have all done it too while we are sat at home on our scratchers. It’s not just a case of “we never qualified then and we haven’t qualified now so we’re not worse off” - it’s a case of not keeping up with countries that were previously on a par or inferior to us now pulling away and putting us to shame. Comparing the national team to other national teams that have improved because they have qualified doesn't justify any decline. Failure is failure whether it's against Italy or Poland,the only thing that matters is qualifying nobody will say we are in decline. If you take sevco the perception is they have improved but where are you judging the improvement by winning nothing. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJF Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 minute ago, wastecoatwilly said: Comparing the national team to other national teams that have improved because they have qualified doesn't justify any decline. Failure is failure whether it's against Italy or Poland,the only thing that matters is qualifying nobody will say we are in decline. If you take sevco the perception is they have improved but where are you judging the improvement by winning nothing. When those around you improve but you stay static, you’re trying to justify that as no decline? Fair enough, but if other countries are capable of it then so are we. And we need to find out why we haven’t been able to (you already know my thoughts on that). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgie greatness Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 1 hour ago, MacArab said: On another topic... Doing the rounds on Twitter that Arbitration on the verge of being wrapped up and a decision could be made as soon as tonight, and if not, tomorrow. That would be good. Well impressed at how they have managed to kept his so quiet tbh. Unlikely the C3 QC will be rabbiting on to milk the 44k worth of walking funds up. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted July 21, 2020 Share Posted July 21, 2020 If you take sevco the perception is they have improved but where are you judging the improvement by winning nothing. Petrofac Training GobletGoblet de Veolia2016 Scottish Cup runners up. They are very successful for an 8 year old tribute / phoenix / zombie outfit. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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