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20 minutes ago, ropy said:

Do we know the names yet?  This needs to be transparent.

How else will we know how to construct the statue.

Ignore him.  The Arbitration hasn't started yet based on media info coming out of Hearts. 

The names of the arbitrators wont be announced publicly until its completed. Its not a public process, arbitration's based on the guests they've had on Sportsound are nearly always confidential.

I imagine we'll get basic information and then an outcome. Then all the fall out following of course...

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18 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said:

A viable reason the arbitration process hasn't yet started could be the three independent arbitrators have other priorities, and can't drop out of other commitments  when suddenly required for football matters.

There must be more than three people in the entire country with the legal competence to do the job and there should be a pool from which three available candidates were chosen. That we are no closer to actually filing this fucking nonsense dispute in the bin with barely three weeks to go until the season starts is an utter farce.

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4 minutes ago, virginton said:

There must be more than three people in the entire country with the legal competence to do the job and there should be a pool from which three available candidates were chosen. That we are no closer to actually filing this fucking nonsense dispute in the bin with barely three weeks to go until the season starts is an utter farce.

Based on Sportsound again. Its a list of pre-selected names like you said. It can't be someone still sitting as a judge etc either I don't think. (standard legal arbitration stuff I believe)

Hearts and Thistle pick one name. SPFL pick the second name. The third name from the list is selected jointly by the individuals selected by Hearts/Thistle & the SPFL. Doubt either side would settle for selecting someone else if the option they want isn't free till Thursday for example. 

 

 

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From what I understand the "legal case" has all been about the validity of the vote to end the season - mostly over the suspicious circumstances around the Dundee vote and what Hearts and Partick aim to do is to nullify that vote, meaning they are still in their previous divisions. 

Is it viable that Hearts/Partick win the case but the SPFL then call a new vote of clubs to end last season - rectifying any procedural errors that caused the previous one to be invalid? With a No vote at that point causing all sorts of logistical and commercial disruption it would become even more of a landslide victory for Yes, wouldn't it?

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1 hour ago, JimmyMirren said:

So that puts St Mirren on 4 with the Anglo-Scottish Cup win in 1980...

Or six if you count the Anglo Scottish Challenge Cup win in 1959, and the win on away goals in 1987 against Coventry!

St Mirren amended to 6 trophies.

http://www.stmirren.info/id19.html

1 hour ago, hague said:

aberdeen also won the 45-46 southern league cup   and the north american soccer league eastern conference championship in 1967

Added in the Southern League Cup. And the NASLEC

Also added in Dumbarton, who won the Festival of Britain St Mungo Quaich in 1951/52.

Winners since 1945-46                  
                   
                   
Team & Trophy Total League titles Scottish Cup North American Soccer League Eastern Conf Festival of Britain Quaich League Cup/Southern League Cup Dryburgh Cup Summer Cup Anglo Scottish Cup European Trophy
                   
                   
Hibs (10) 3 1     3 2 1    
East Fife (3)         3        
 Dundee (4) 1       3        
Motherwell (4)   2     1   1    
Hearts (10) 2 4     4        
Dumbarton(1)       1          
Aberdeen (23) 4 7 1   7 2     2
Clyde (3*)   2             *1
St Mirren (4)   2     1     1  
Dunfermline Athletic (2)   2              
Dundee United (5) 1 2     2        
Raith Rovers (1)         1        
Partick Thistle (1)         1        
Kilmarnock (3) 1 1     1        
Falkirk (1)   1              
St Johnstone (1)   1              
Inverness Caledonian Thistle (1)   1              
Ross County (1)         1        
Livingston (1)         1        

ETA: See amended list & totals below.

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12 minutes ago, Fillin said:

From what I understand the "legal case" has all been about the validity of the vote to end the season - mostly over the suspicious circumstances around the Dundee vote and what Hearts and Partick aim to do is to nullify that vote, meaning they are still in their previous divisions. 

Is it viable that Hearts/Partick win the case but the SPFL then call a new vote of clubs to end last season - rectifying any procedural errors that caused the previous one to be invalid? With a No vote at that point causing all sorts of logistical and commercial disruption it would become even more of a landslide victory for Yes, wouldn't it?

Nobody's asking for that. Hearts and Thistle already know a revote would go the same way as the old one, and there would be major impracticalities given that the season starts in a fortnight. They want to overrule the vote entirely and substitute it with what they want, or alternatively take a big bag of cash instead.

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7 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

St Mirren amended to 6 trophies.

http://www.stmirren.info/id19.html

Added in the Southern League Cup. And the NASLEC

Also added in Dumbarton, who won the Festival of Britain St Mungo Quaich in 1951/52.

Winners since 1945-46                  
                   
                   
Team & Trophy Total League titles Scottish Cup North American Soccer League Eastern Conf Festival of Britain Quaich League Cup/Southern League Cup Dryburgh Cup Summer Cup Anglo Scottish Cup European Trophy
                   
                   
Hibs (10) 3 1     3 2 1    
East Fife (3)         3        
 Dundee (4) 1       3        
Motherwell (4)   2     1   1    
Hearts (10) 2 4     4        
Dumbarton(1)       1          
Aberdeen (23) 4 7 1   7 2     2
Clyde (3*)   2             *1
St Mirren (4)   2     1     1  
Dunfermline Athletic (2)   2              
Dundee United (5) 1 2     2        
Raith Rovers (1)         1        
Partick Thistle (1)         1        
Kilmarnock (3) 1 1     1        
Falkirk (1)   1              
St Johnstone (1)   1              
Inverness Caledonian Thistle (1)   1              
Ross County (1)         1        
Livingston (1)         1        

 

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12 minutes ago, The Moonster said:

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New totals: Aberdeen 23, Hearts & Hibs 10 each, clear in fourth St Mirren 6, Dundee United 5, Dundee & Motherwell 4 each, Kilmarnock, East Fife and Clyde 3 each, Dunfermline Athletic 2, Dumbarton, Raith Rovers, Partick Thistle, Falkirk, Livingston, Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Ross County and St Johnstone 1 each

Winners since 1945-46                  
                   
                   
Team & Trophy Total League titles Scottish Cup North American Soccer League Eastern Conf Festival of Britain Quaich League Cup/Southern League Cup Dryburgh Cup Summer Cup Anglo Scottish Cup European Trophy
                   
                   
Hibs (10) 3 1     3 2 1    
East Fife (3)         3        
 Dundee (4) 1       3        
Motherwell (4)   2     1   1    
Hearts (10) 2 4     4        
Dumbarton(1)       1          
Aberdeen (23) 4 7 1   7 2     2
Clyde (3*)   2             *1
St Mirren (6)   2     1     3  
Dunfermline Athletic (2)   2              
Dundee United (5) 1 2     2        
Raith Rovers (1)         1        
Partick Thistle (1)         1        
Kilmarnock (3) 1 1     1        
Falkirk (1)   1              
St Johnstone (1)   1              
Inverness CT (1)   1              
Ross County (1)         1        
Livingston (1)         1        
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5 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

New totals: Aberdeen 23, Hearts & Hibs 10 each, clear in fourth St Mirren 6, Dundee United 5, Dundee & Motherwell 4 each, Kilmarnock, East Fife and Clyde 3 each, Dunfermline Athletic 2, Dumbarton, Raith Rovers, Partick Thistle, Falkirk, Livingston, Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Ross County and St Johnstone 1 each

Winners since 1945-46                  
                   
                   
Team & Trophy Total League titles Scottish Cup North American Soccer League Eastern Conf Festival of Britain Quaich League Cup/Southern League Cup Dryburgh Cup Summer Cup Anglo Scottish Cup European Trophy
                   
                   
Hibs (10) 3 1     3 2 1    
East Fife (3)         3        
 Dundee (4) 1       3        
Motherwell (4)   2     1   1    
Hearts (10) 2 4     4        
Dumbarton(1)       1          
Aberdeen (23) 4 7 1   7 2     2
Clyde (3*)   2             *1
St Mirren (6)   2     1     3  
Dunfermline Athletic (2)   2              
Dundee United (5) 1 2     2        
Raith Rovers (1)         1        
Partick Thistle (1)         1        
Kilmarnock (3) 1 1     1        
Falkirk (1)   1              
St Johnstone (1)   1              
Inverness CT (1)   1              
Ross County (1)         1        
Livingston (1)         1        

Does this mean we are the 'Diddy Kings'?

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1 hour ago, Arch Stanton said:

Nicely paraphrased from the post I made earlier in the week.

 

Sorry about that, I never saw your post. I can't keep up with this thread - you look away for five minutes and there's another seven pages of posts so I tend to skip to the end.

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