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3 minutes ago, St3vie said:

I love this notion that the absolute maximum amounts of money that could have been paid out before calling the leagues, were paid out......absolute nonsense

As has been said, there was £9.3m still to be dished out, and the breakdown of that in League 2 seen the top club receive approx £25k and the bottom club receive approx £17k. The SPFL could very easily have given every club in League 2 another £17k, and hold off on the rest until a proper and informed decision was made about the sporting aspects of finishing the league.  Hell they could even have went further than that, and working from the top down, mathematically worked out how far down the table each team could have finished and gave them the prize money for that position.  In the case of Cove Rangers, the lowest they could have finished would have been third, so the SPFL could have paid out 23k to Cove Rangers, meaning they would have got £2k less than what they got when the leagues were called

Same could have applied to League One and the Championship

But no, apparently this was impossible

Bullshit

None of this is mandatory.  You can churn as many numbers as you want. If the Board takes a decision and decides other options aren't viable then that is that.  Your comments are like the dossier, littered with 'could have' but nothing say must or duty bound.  Rather like Sevco because they didnt do what you think they 'could' do it's all a conspiracy and ragin' 

 

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1 minute ago, DAVIDB69 said:

 


Appreciate that we can’t afford to pay for testing , but there were same guidelines in non big countries who are now moving forwards

We have no government guidelines as to how take the issue forwards is what I meant and they don’t seem interested in offering any timetables or ideas to move forwards.

I fully expect us to be among the tail end of Europe to get our society moving again .

 

The ONLY leagues that are now moving forward are ones where the matches are going to be played behind closed doors, with full testing paid by football. Scottish football cannot move forward until there's a relaxation in social distancing.  That's not happening any time soon. You cannot compare Scottish football to England, Germany etc.

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13 minutes ago, St3vie said:

I love this notion that the absolute maximum amounts of money that could have been paid out before calling the leagues, were paid out......absolute nonsense

As has been said, there was £9.3m still to be dished out, and the breakdown of that in League 2 seen the top club receive approx £25k and the bottom club receive approx £17k. The SPFL could very easily have given every club in League 2 another £17k, and hold off on the rest until a proper and informed decision was made about the sporting aspects of finishing the league.  Hell they could even have went further than that, and working from the top down, mathematically worked out how far down the table each team could have finished and gave them the prize money for that position.  In the case of Cove Rangers, the lowest they could have finished would have been third, so the SPFL could have paid out 23k to Cove Rangers, meaning they would have got £2k less than what they got when the leagues were called

Same could have applied to League One and the Championship

But no, apparently this was impossible

Bullshit

Do you want to post your source for those figures.  This suggests that the difference between top and bottom of League 2 is £22,500. 

It also shows that the difference between second and last in the Championship is £300,000 (£475,000 v £175,000) How much do you think was still left to be advanced to Partick? Given that, mathematically, the only team in the Championship safe from relegation was United, how much do you reckon you could have "advanced" ICT without that advance potentially becoming a loan?

And why would you want to go down that line (other than to prove a point - waah, it could have been done). The season is finished. What's to be gained from pretending otherwise?

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6 minutes ago, DAVIDB69 said:

 


Appreciate that we can’t afford to pay for testing , but there were same guidelines in non big countries who are now moving forwards

We have no government guidelines as to how take the issue forwards is what I meant and they don’t seem interested in offering any timetables or ideas to move forwards.

I fully expect us to be among the tail end of Europe to get our society moving again .

 

It's been quite clearly explained that lockdown and social distancing is in place until further notice. Why would exemptions be made for football?

we were late in every aspect of the outbreak, from it appearing and every step of containment. When did you expect us to "get society moving"?

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12 minutes ago, St3vie said:

I love this notion that the absolute maximum amounts of money that could have been paid out before calling the leagues, were paid out......absolute nonsense

As has been said, there was £9.3m still to be dished out, and the breakdown of that in League 2 seen the top club receive approx £25k and the bottom club receive approx £17k. The SPFL could very easily have given every club in League 2 another £17k, and hold off on the rest until a proper and informed decision was made about the sporting aspects of finishing the league.  Hell they could even have went further than that, and working from the top down, mathematically worked out how far down the table each team could have finished and gave them the prize money for that position.  In the case of Cove Rangers, the lowest they could have finished would have been third, so the SPFL could have paid out 23k to Cove Rangers, meaning they would have got £2k less than what they got when the leagues were called

Same could have applied to League One and the Championship

But no, apparently this was impossible

Bullshit

Blah blah blah.. we have been over this for the past four weeks...

You were asked two questions you failed to give an answer to.

How do you think the season can finished on the pitch?

When do you think its appropriate to call the season?

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4 hours ago, Romeo said:

Just in from work. Has Scottish football been brought to it's knees by the might Klan?

 

4 hours ago, bennett said:

Publicly celtic have been rather quiet so far. 

 

4 hours ago, Jinky67 said:

Why would Celtic comment? Pretty sure they are more than happy to sit back and watch Rangers make a rip roaring c**t of themselves

Sometimes bennett can be quite subtle...

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7 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

 

 

Sometimes bennett can be quite subtle...

Giving the Celtic lads shite, all for it, crawling up Bennetts arse is not a good look, hes about as sublle as chorus of the billy boys..

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2 hours ago, wastecoatwilly said:

The top flight hasn't be called yet but there was a need to call the lower leagues so they could get their dosh.
Don Neilcaster time is nearly up anyway which mite give sevco some comfort.
The deadline from UEFA is the 25th of may for leagues to make a decision.
Clubs will have other issues to deal with player contracts ect.. so why are you looking for a timescale?

Just a wee bit...

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44 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said:

Do you want to post your source for those figures.  This suggests that the difference between top and bottom of League 2 is £22,500. 

It also shows that the difference between second and last in the Championship is £300,000 (£475,000 v £175,000) How much do you think was still left to be advanced to Partick? Given that, mathematically, the only team in the Championship safe from relegation was United, how much do you reckon you could have "advanced" ICT without that advance potentially becoming a loan?

And why would you want to go down that line (other than to prove a point - waah, it could have been done). The season is finished. What's to be gained from pretending otherwise?

The figures I used were not total monies for the season, they were the total amounts of what was left to be paid out to clubs

The letter sent out by the SPFL regards the payment of end of season prize money, clearly stated that £9.3m worth of payments were still to be given out to clubs, with league positions determining exactly what they got

When the lower leagues were called, £1.8m in prize money was paid out to the clubs in the championship, league one and league two

It was widely reported that the breakdown of this £9.3m was as follows.....if you have a calculator, you can do the math and see if the figures check out 👍

PREMIERSHIP

Celtic 13.4% £1,246,200

Rangers 9.6% £892,800

Motherwell 8.25% £767,250

Aberdeen 7.25% £674,250

Livingston 6.75% £627,750

Hibs 6.25% £581,250

St Johnstone 5.75% £534,750

Kilmarnock 5.5% £511,500

St Mirren 5.25% £488,250

Ross County 5% £465,000

Hamilton 4.75% £441,750

Hearts 4.5% £418,500

CHAMPIONSHIP

Dundee United 2.25% £209,250

Inverness 1.9% £176,700

Dundee 1.6% £148,800

Ayr 1.3% £120,900

Dunfermline 1% £93,000

Arbroath 0.9% £83,700

Morton 0.85% £79,050

Alloa 0.8% £74,400

Q.o.S.0.75% £69,750

Partick Thistle 0.7% £65,100

LEAGUE ONE

Raith Rovers 0.5% £46,500

Falkirk 0.43% £39,990

Airdrie 0.35% £32,550

Montrose 0.34% £31,620

East Fife 0.33% £30,690

Dumbarton 0.32% £29,760

Clyde 0.31% £28,830

Peterhead 0.3% £27,900

Forfar 0.29% £26,970

Stranraer 0.28% £26,040

LEAGUE TWO

Cove Rangers 0.27% £25,110

Edinburgh City 0.26% £24,180

Elgin 0.25% £23,250

Cowdenbeath 0.24% £22,320

Queen’s Park 0.23% £21,390

Stirling Albion 0.22% £20,460

Annan Athletic 0.21% £19,530

Stenhousemuir 0.2% £18,600

Albion Rovers 0.19% £17,670

Brechin 0.18% £16,740

 

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The figures I used were not total monies for the season, they were the total amounts of what was left to be paid out to clubs
The letter sent out by the SPFL regards the payment of end of season prize money, clearly stated that £9.3m worth of payments were still to be given out to clubs, with league positions determining exactly what they got
When the lower leagues were called, £1.8m in prize money was paid out to the clubs in the championship, league one and league two
It was widely reported that the breakdown of this £9.3m was as follows.....if you have a calculator, you can do the math and see if the figures check out [emoji106]

PREMIERSHIP

Celtic 13.4% £1,246,200

Rangers 9.6% £892,800

Motherwell 8.25% £767,250

Aberdeen 7.25% £674,250

Livingston 6.75% £627,750

Hibs 6.25% £581,250

St Johnstone 5.75% £534,750

Kilmarnock 5.5% £511,500

St Mirren 5.25% £488,250

Ross County 5% £465,000

Hamilton 4.75% £441,750

Hearts 4.5% £418,500

CHAMPIONSHIP

Dundee United 2.25% £209,250

Inverness 1.9% £176,700

Dundee 1.6% £148,800

Ayr 1.3% £120,900

Dunfermline 1% £93,000

Arbroath 0.9% £83,700

Morton 0.85% £79,050

Alloa 0.8% £74,400

Q.o.S.0.75% £69,750

Partick Thistle 0.7% £65,100

LEAGUE ONE

Raith Rovers 0.5% £46,500

Falkirk 0.43% £39,990

Airdrie 0.35% £32,550

Montrose 0.34% £31,620

East Fife 0.33% £30,690

Dumbarton 0.32% £29,760

Clyde 0.31% £28,830

Peterhead 0.3% £27,900

Forfar 0.29% £26,970

Stranraer 0.28% £26,040

LEAGUE TWO

Cove Rangers 0.27% £25,110

Edinburgh City 0.26% £24,180

Elgin 0.25% £23,250

Cowdenbeath 0.24% £22,320

Queen’s Park 0.23% £21,390

Stirling Albion 0.22% £20,460

Annan Athletic 0.21% £19,530

Stenhousemuir 0.2% £18,600

Albion Rovers 0.19% £17,670

Brechin 0.18% £16,740

 
Those figures are nowhere near correct. Clyde got £8.2k as their final payment.

https://m.clydefc.co.uk/news/2020/04/17/6399/#.XrSEehjTVkw
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7 minutes ago, St3vie said:

The figures I used were not total monies for the season, they were the total amounts of what was left to be paid out to clubs

The letter sent out by the SPFL regards the payment of end of season prize money, clearly stated that £9.3m worth of payments were still to be given out to clubs, with league positions determining exactly what they got

When the lower leagues were called, £1.8m in prize money was paid out to the clubs in the championship, league one and league two

It was widely reported that the breakdown of this £9.3m was as follows.....if you have a calculator, you can do the math and see if the figures check out 👍

PREMIERSHIP

Celtic 13.4% £1,246,200

Rangers 9.6% £892,800

Motherwell 8.25% £767,250

Aberdeen 7.25% £674,250

Livingston 6.75% £627,750

Hibs 6.25% £581,250

St Johnstone 5.75% £534,750

Kilmarnock 5.5% £511,500

St Mirren 5.25% £488,250

Ross County 5% £465,000

Hamilton 4.75% £441,750

Hearts 4.5% £418,500

CHAMPIONSHIP

Dundee United 2.25% £209,250

Inverness 1.9% £176,700

Dundee 1.6% £148,800

Ayr 1.3% £120,900

Dunfermline 1% £93,000

Arbroath 0.9% £83,700

Morton 0.85% £79,050

Alloa 0.8% £74,400

Q.o.S.0.75% £69,750

Partick Thistle 0.7% £65,100

LEAGUE ONE

Raith Rovers 0.5% £46,500

Falkirk 0.43% £39,990

Airdrie 0.35% £32,550

Montrose 0.34% £31,620

East Fife 0.33% £30,690

Dumbarton 0.32% £29,760

Clyde 0.31% £28,830

Peterhead 0.3% £27,900

Forfar 0.29% £26,970

Stranraer 0.28% £26,040

LEAGUE TWO

Cove Rangers 0.27% £25,110

Edinburgh City 0.26% £24,180

Elgin 0.25% £23,250

Cowdenbeath 0.24% £22,320

Queen’s Park 0.23% £21,390

Stirling Albion 0.22% £20,460

Annan Athletic 0.21% £19,530

Stenhousemuir 0.2% £18,600

Albion Rovers 0.19% £17,670

Brechin 0.18% £16,740

 

Incorrect

 

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