Mark Connolly Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 I wonder how many of the 67 goals we've conceded this season have come directly from an error by the keeper or a defender. It's probably not half, but it certainly feels that way 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 The banter has been all good and well but in all seriousness there is an article on the BBC website that states Goodwin has spoken to Ogren for several hours and is convinced Ogren is determined to put things right. Just letting you all know in case anyone is interested in reading it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 11 minutes ago, Shadow Play said: The banter has been all good and well but in all seriousness there is an article on the BBC website that states Goodwin has spoken to Ogren for several hours and is convinced Ogren is determined to put things right. Just letting you all know in case anyone is interested in reading it. Ogren has to "put it right" because if he doesn't he'll lose the most if not all of the £13Million he's farted into the DUFC black hole. To be honest, the fact he was stupid enough to trust an agent to run a club with his own money means he should be locked up in a psychiatric ward and have his money looked after by a responsible adult imo. I'm not sold on Goodwin, I like the cut of his jib at times but seems to be all it is. Sure, he didn't have a transfer window yadda yadda but I still think there was enough in that squad to stay up. You can't have a keeper and defence like we did and not have problems but the whole team were a complete disorganised mess most of the time. Basically it's not really his fault but he probably should have kept us up with the squad he had. I am not sure if I actually care all that much anymore. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 23 minutes ago, mishtergrolsch said: Ogren has to "put it right" because if he doesn't he'll lose the most if not all of the £13Million he's farted into the DUFC black hole. To be honest, the fact he was stupid enough to trust an agent to run a club with his own money means he should be locked up in a psychiatric ward and have his money looked after by a responsible adult imo. I'm not sold on Goodwin, I like the cut of his jib at times but seems to be all it is. Sure, he didn't have a transfer window yadda yadda but I still think there was enough in that squad to stay up. You can't have a keeper and defence like we did and not have problems but the whole team were a complete disorganised mess most of the time. Basically it's not really his fault but he probably should have kept us up with the squad he had. I am not sure if I actually care all that much anymore. I’m not going to make a habit of this but I agree with you regarding Goodwin. I assume you still consider United have a reasonable chance of bouncing back up to the Premiership? So the question perhaps should be if you don’t sign him up what Premiership club will be looking to bring him in? I honestly don’t think there would be one. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mishtergrolsch Posted May 26, 2023 Share Posted May 26, 2023 58 minutes ago, Shadow Play said: I’m not going to make a habit of this but I agree with you regarding Goodwin. I assume you still consider United have a reasonable chance of bouncing back up to the Premiership? So the question perhaps should be if you don’t sign him up what Premiership club will be looking to bring him in? I honestly don’t think there would be one. Couldnt care less who he goes to or what he does after United. If he's given the job by Ogren then I'll give him one game after his first transfer window to say he needs punted. I don't see any Premiership team touching him with a bargepole and rightly so. He'll need to drop a level or two to rebuild his reputation after a disaster of a season for him. Ultimately most managers are shite ex players who talk the talk and have media pals to cheerlead for them when needed so it's a total lottery. Most United fans I know want Levein back in some form. I suspect its because he was the most competent manager in years and it was of one of our most successful eras. Could he replicate that? Probably not. Would he be better than Goodwin and the inevitable Pressley and McCann types that get thrown around? In my eyes, definitely but it's not a high bar. And still a gamble. Director of Footbal may be his most suitable role now. I'd probably wait and see who the applicants are for the job and if there's nothing better (I'd be surprised if there wasn't now the Fat One has gone) then I'd settle for Goodwin but on a 1 year deal. In terms of bouncing back up I really dont know. You need teams with as much if not more dig and determination than skill and flair, something our current squad is fucking devoid of, so we're not set up for that fight. I expect Levitt to be sold for the first disappointing bid. Probably to Hearts...I like Fletcher but I can't see him wanting to stay for a season in the Fundesliga. I'd hold on to Sibbald as he's the only player that seems to want to put a tackle in and work hard every game. The rest could f**k off and I probably wouldn't even notice really. Maybe Middleton would be useful if he's fit enough to last a game. I'd like to see some mentally tougher players brought in at the very least and I want all links with Revolution Sports and their 5 year plan stuff in the fucking sea. Do that and I think k we'll be OK. f**k off United. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 23 hours ago, mishtergrolsch said: Ogren has to "put it right" because if he doesn't he'll lose the most if not all of the £13Million he's farted into the DUFC black hole. That's called the 'sunk cost fallacy' and if Ogren is even slightly less thick than his decision-making has shown so far, he might just recognise it and cut you off for good. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 The bold Jim is officially manager for the next 2 years 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Highland League in 5 years imo 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
btb Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 3 minutes ago, ArabianKnight said: The bold Jim is officially manager for the next 2 years Wow! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Grimes Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Come awa’ lads 18 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheScarf Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthernLights Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: Come awa’ lads Incredible We'll just ignore the fact we had to rebuild the defence after he was sacked as there was no chance we were finishing 3rd, or even top 6 for that matter with Stewart "captaining" the team. Edited May 27, 2023 by NorthernLights 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 7 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: Come awa’ lads Please tell me that’s from his LinkedIn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DA Baracus Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 2 minutes ago, Theroadlesstravelled said: Please tell me that’s from his LinkedIn. A minter if so, but not comparable to Gary Locke's LinkeIn. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hendo Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 20 minutes ago, Frank Grimes said: Come awa’ lads Thats some spin. Very surprised at this. He had one job, to keep United up, and has failed, so thought that would be it for him. United fans can now look forward to having a ridiculously unbalanced squad, very inconsistent recruitment as he signs the odd gem along with some absolute dross, and an unwillingness to change formation or tactics. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 36 minutes ago, ArabianKnight said: The bold Jim is officially manager for the next 2 years Do you think Ogren got in early to scare off other clubs from signing Jim first 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Brown nosing your boss is always a solid career plan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pozbaird Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 Pleased for Jim Goodwin on a personal level. Two year deal? Surely to goodness you’ll have enough about you to come back up from that division at first time of asking. That’s year one, then if promotion is achieved, he gets ‘year two’ to keep you up. Surely, in the name of anything good, Dundee United can come back in one go. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadow Play Posted May 27, 2023 Share Posted May 27, 2023 4 minutes ago, pozbaird said: Pleased for Jim Goodwin on a personal level. Two year deal? Surely to goodness you’ll have enough about you to come back up from that division at first time of asking. That’s year one, then if promotion is achieved, he gets ‘year two’ to keep you up. Surely, in the name of anything good, Dundee United can come back in one go. A lot of fans said that last time they were relegated but United made the Championship their home for 4 seasons. As of next season their last 10 seasons will have been equally divided between the Premiership and the Championship. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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