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Been listening to the podcast Hoaxed, about the Hampstead Hoax, a conspiracy theory alleging that Satanic Ritual abuse was taking place at a huge scale in a Hampstead primary school and church.  Really horrible case - it was fabricated by several very manipulative people, lead to huge disruption for completely innocent families who had their details distributed on the internet.

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4 hours ago, oaksoft said:

In the UK we have hilarious conspiracy theory wackos like @Captain Saintsible and @Detournement

but we are rank amateurs when it comes to the US.

This woman went on TV to claim that the Democrats are creating hurricanes and tornadoes to target Republican states.

Apparently "we know the technology exists" and that "of course" Biden would use it to punish Republican voters.

Former GOP candidates push baseless QAnon conspiracy theory that Hurricane Ian was created to punish DeSantis (msn.com)

I was once in Nashville when it was hit by a tornado.  One street was severely damaged while the parallel streets on either side were totally untouched.

Those "Vote Democrat" signs in the front lawn were very effective at deflecting tornadoes.

I think I should get one just in case.

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I'm fairly certain that prior to the Act of Union Scottish summers were nowhere near as fucking miserable as they are now. Extremely convenient for Yoons that there's nobody around who witnessed it first hand. My childhood memories of pre-Thatcher scorching hot school summer holidays lend credence to my theory.

So yeah. Doon with this year round yoon dreich shite. I'm sure that when iScotland is finally a thing the weather will generally be a bit warmer, and any assertion that is linked to global warming in any way is clearly just conspiracy nut batshittery.

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54 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Nothing about this makes sense. 

 

The last bit does. Cops clearly heard there was a mass shooting going on and decided to retire to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint, and wait for it all to blow over. That seems to be standard procedure at school shootings, at least. Also, I dunno if security's changed any in the past twenty years, but I'm pretty sure I could've brought 23 firearms to my hotel room in Vegas without difficulty.

Are you thinking that the CIA Manchuria'd all his candidates and something went wrong?

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It would be no problem taking loads of suitcases with guns and ammo in them into any hotel I've been to in the UK either. Cops being incompetent isn't new either. I'm struggling to find the conspiracy angle, maybe a nutter doing this fairly simple thing wouldn't fill a hundred page report.

P.S. Ah, getting it now..

 

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It probably doesn't make sense, because it's a load of shit. Police located within the hotel were on the floor below within minutes, but were initially unable to locate the exact position of the gunman and were led to believe there was two shooters.  They made their way to the floor above, just as the shooter just had stopped firing.  This all happened within minutes in one of the largest hotels in the world. I assume the truth doesn't fit the narrative with conspiracy weirdos though.  

Also, it would be ridiculously easy to take a large amount of luggage into a Vegas hotel, there's so many entrances and the staff working it would hardly get noticed. 

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3 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

It would be no problem taking loads of suitcases with guns and ammo in them into any hotel I've been to in the UK either. Cops being incompetent isn't new either. I'm struggling to find the conspiracy angle, maybe a nutter doing this fairly simple thing wouldn't fill a hundred page report.

The guy wasn't a nutter prior to that night. There's loads of weird stuff surrounding the incident. The FBI didn't manage to find anything on his laptops, there was never any proper explanation of how he was so rich, he was part owner of a plane that was previously owned by a CIA linked South African mercenary. 

Paddock's brother gave interviews after the event questioning the law enforcement narrative and was immediately charged with kiddy porn offences which obviously took him off the telly. The charges were later dismissed. 

Paddock's house was burgled during the period where it was considered a crime scene and under the custody of the FBI. 

A lot of people are adamant that MBS was there at the time and the day after the shooting was when he did that crackdown where he locked all the other Saudi royals up. All the floors above the room where Paddock was are owned by another Saudi prince who was MBS's main rival. This obviously seems a bit far fetched but loads of eye witnesses reported a gun battle at the airport which officially didn't happen. 

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1 minute ago, MONKMAN said:

It probably doesn't make sense, because it's a load of shit. Police located within the hotel were on the floor below within minutes, but were initially unable to locate the exact position of the gunman and were led to believe there was two shooters.  They made their way to the floor above, just as the shooter just had stopped firing.  This all happened within minutes in one of the largest hotels in the world. I assume the truth doesn't fit the narrative with conspiracy weirdos though.  

Also, it would be ridiculously easy to take a large amount of luggage into a Vegas hotel, there's so many entrances and the staff working it would hardly get noticed. 

He took it up in the service elevator. 

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He used the service elevator twice, to carry 12 bags in total, which isn't uncommon in Vegas for guest with a large amount of bags.  He also used the guest elevators to 10 bags up to the rooms, not much of a difference really. 

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The common factor of most conspiracy theories is that they add up all the extraneous coincidences that surround every event to obscure the banally obvious truth of what happened. In this case the main factor was the ability to accumulate so much military grade weaponry and ammo totally legally, that's why the conspiracy theories have emerged from the 2nd ammendment nuts encouraged by the gun lobby. There's another conspiracy theory for you. 

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23 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

The common factor of most conspiracy theories is that they add up all the extraneous coincidences that surround every event to obscure the banally obvious truth of what happened. In this case the main factor was the ability to accumulate so much military grade weaponry and ammo totally legally, that's why the conspiracy theories have emerged from the 2nd ammendment nuts encouraged by the gun lobby. There's another conspiracy theory for you. 

Anyone can get all those guns. There is no motive, the incident is anything but banal! It's utterly exceptional and requires an explanation and investigation beyond what the FBI provided. 

The stuff about the police not knowing where he was is bullshit. The security guard reported that he had been shot from Paddock's room before the shooting out the window commenced. 

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7 minutes ago, Detournement said:

Anyone can get all those guns. 

My point exactly, that's the story and the reason for the conspiracy theories to divert us from that. Man goes on a colossal gambling binge before ending his life in the most dramatic way he could think of. That's Vegas baby! 

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How old are these MK Ultra boys if they've been communicating telepathically since the Sixties?

TBH, I've heard worse film ideas than a group of geriatric telepath assassins getting revenge on the government by forcing it to lie about the mass shootings they're committing.

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19 minutes ago, BFTD said:

How old are these MK Ultra boys if they've been communicating telepathically since the Sixties?

TBH, I've heard worse film ideas than a group of geriatric telepath assassins getting revenge on the government by forcing it to lie about the mass shootings they're committing.

I'm getting influenced by telepathic messages from P&Bs old codgers

Must.... Support....Dundee United...or Aberdeen.....

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26 minutes ago, BFTD said:

How old are these MK Ultra boys if they've been communicating telepathically since the Sixties?

Milton Keynes didn’t even have a football team until Wimbledon relocated there in 2004. 

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2 hours ago, Detournement said:

The security guard reported that he had been shot from Paddock's room before the shooting out the window commenced. 

Yet again, more lies. The initial shots were fired out the window and into the crowd. The security guard wasn’t shot until after the first volley going into the crowds below. 

Why don’t you just skip to the part where you tell us what you “think” happened.

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