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Derry Alli

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9 minutes ago, Busta Nut said:

He didn't "receive it". It wasn't a misplaced pass or a skewed header. He was challenged and tackled.

Exactly, Rodri sneaked up from behind him and challenged him for the ball, so he was interfering as much as anyone on a football pitch can do and the mistake from Mings was as a direct result of said interference, hence it's an open and shut case.

He was OFFSIDE by any sane individuals interpretation of the rules.

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13 minutes ago, GordonS said:

That. He challenged the defender before he had the ball under control. I honestly don't understand how it's even open to debate. It's up there with the worst decisions I've ever seen.

Where does it mention anything about the defender having the ball under control? Rodri challenged him after Mings deliberately played the ball, which basically resets the offside.

"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball ... is not considered to have gained an advantage..."

If Rodri had stood still in his offside position and Mings went to clear the ball but sliced it behind him, it would be onside as it that's a deliberate play by the defender. So not sure why a defender taking the time to chest the ball down before being challenged would be any different.

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1 hour ago, Ginaro said:

Where does it mention anything about the defender having the ball under control? Rodri challenged him after Mings deliberately played the ball, which basically resets the offside.

"A player in an offside position receiving the ball from an opponent who deliberately plays the ball ... is not considered to have gained an advantage..."

If Rodri had stood still in his offside position and Mings went to clear the ball but sliced it behind him, it would be onside as it that's a deliberate play by the defender. So not sure why a defender taking the time to chest the ball down before being challenged would be any different.

It doesn't say the defender only needs to have touched the ball to bring everyone onside either. It says that if a player in an offside position challenges for the ball, it's offside, and he did challenge for the ball.

It's a bloody stupid ambiguity anyway, the idea that a defender stretching for a ball and touching it brings someone onside who has never been onside defeats the purpose of the rule. That goal Spurs got at Man City in the CL semi final was daft.

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1 minute ago, GordonS said:

It doesn't say the defender only needs to have touched the ball to bring everyone onside either. It says that if a player in an offside position challenges for the ball, it's offside, and he did challenge for the ball.

It's a bloody stupid ambiguity anyway, the idea that a defender stretching for a ball and touching it brings someone onside who has never been onside defeats the purpose of the rule. That goal Spurs got at Man City in the CL semi final was daft.

Aye, Villa have got out there, had a decent line, the guy is ten yards off and they are penalised for it. He clearly gains a massive advantage from being in an offside position, complete no-brainer he's obviously offside.

The problem is for the last ten years absolute wallopers have been fiddling with the rules constantly and making up utter shite. They never improve the game just cause nonsense like this.

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Aye, Villa have got out there, had a decent line, the guy is ten yards off and they are penalised for it. He clearly gains a massive advantage from being in an offside position, complete no-brainer he's obviously offside.
The problem is for the last ten years absolute wallopers have been fiddling with the rules constantly and making up utter shite. They never improve the game just cause nonsense like this.
Bt just pointed out that this law has been in for a few years, and it's all down to the fact that he tried to bring the ball down. By doing that, he brings the boy back onside.

I'm fine with that rule, but the players and managers need to know it.
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5 minutes ago, pandarilla said:

Bt just pointed out that this law has been in for a few years, and it's all down to the fact that he tried to bring the ball down. By doing that, he brings the boy back onside.

I'm fine with that rule, but the players and managers need to know it.

Nah its shite, its an idiotic rule made by morons who know f**k all about the game. As soon as a Man City player heads it forwards he is offside, once he tackles Mings who didn't even know he was there cause he was ten yards behind him he has gained an advantage from being in an offside position. Total no-brainer he's offside.  

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12 minutes ago, GordonS said:

It's a bloody stupid ambiguity anyway, the idea that a defender stretching for a ball and touching it brings someone onside who has never been onside defeats the purpose of the rule. That goal Spurs got at Man City in the CL semi final was daft.

I'm struggling to work out what goal you're talking about here. First of all, Spurs have never played Man City in the Champions League semi-final - their only previous CL meeting was in the quarter-final in 2018/19. However, none of Spurs' four goals in that tie had anything remotely controversial about them involving an offside decision. The first goal in the first leg had a VAR check to see whether the ball had gone out of play in the build up (it hadn't), and the tie winner from Llorente in the second leg had a VAR check for a handball, but was awarded because it wasn't clear that it touched his arm.

I'm wondering if you're actually thinking about the goal that Man City got disallowed in stoppage time of this match. However, that bore absolutely no relevance to what happened tonight - it was just a bog-standard offside decision where a pass from a Spurs player deflected off a City player and into the path of a teammate who was offside at the time of the deflection.

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