LongTimeLurker Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 8 hours ago, Aladdin said: This. I'm pretty reliant on 538 and they have repeatedly said that there isn't much of a shy Trump voter phenomenon. Trump voters are pretty happy to loudly declare who they support. The issue in 2016 was the white non college educated voters who weren't spoken to by pollsters and weren't weighted appropriately as supporting Trump. https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2020/10/29/2020-polls-trump-biden-prediction-accurate-2016-433619?__twitter_impression=true 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 6 minutes ago, willis said: The shy Dems vote is small as there is comparatively little social cost. Might be a sizeable unenthusiastic Dems vote that is hidden. Shy Reps vote also comes from plummeting trust in pollsters. Also information security concerns. Willis ffs, who you talking about? Your neighbours? Do you even talk to them? Do you think they're scared of telling you how they vote? Come on Willis..get real. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Hiya swampy hiya pal 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpetmonster Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: It’s not the real Willis, he got off the crack in the mid 90s and does OK for himself these days. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Mind Swampy had that alias where he pretended to be some American pizza delivery guy in New Jersey who had innocently stumbled upon the politics sub forum of a Scottish football website. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anonapersona Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 The Trump supporters in my street like to shove it in your face with a half dozen placards, several flags and Jesus4Guns bumper stickers on their stupid hick truck. These people are mad. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fullerene Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 56 minutes ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Mind Swampy had that alias where he pretended to be some American pizza delivery guy in New Jersey who had innocently stumbled upon the politics sub forum of a Scottish football website. Scottish football, Peruvian volleyball, Icelandic ice hockey. Does he ever get round to delivering any pizzas? I ordered a double pepperoni with anchovies. That was two weeks ago. I am still waiting. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralstonite Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 I'm looking forward to this. I have Wednesday booked off work, so that I can witness the aftermath; though I am now being told the result might not be known for days. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doulikefish Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 8 minutes ago, Fullerene said: Scottish football, Peruvian volleyball, Icelandic ice hockey. Does he ever get round to delivering any pizzas? I ordered a double pepperoni with anchovies. That was two weeks ago. I am still waiting. Anchovies? Probably in the bin where it should be 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee-Bey Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 That Terrence K Williams tweet makes me wonder who will best adapt the grift after the Trump defeat. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) 2 hours ago, Henderson to deliver ..... said: Mind Swampy had that alias where he pretended to be some American pizza delivery guy in New Jersey who had innocently stumbled upon the politics sub forum of a Scottish football website. That was after he was a Scottish SNP voting activist from Greenock, but before he was an American golf fan from the Deep South. Edit: he always tends to come back and disappear at the same time as that Banana troll who started the Trump thread. It’s mightily coincidental. Edited November 2, 2020 by Savage Henry 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: https://www.politico.com/amp/news/magazine/2020/10/29/2020-polls-trump-biden-prediction-accurate-2016-433619?__twitter_impression=true Trafalgar Group aren't pollsters, they're Republican activists. Everything in the piece is "they would say that, wouldn't they". Anyone who's looked at a poll by decent UK pollsters will know it runs to pages with full break down in unweighted, weighted and percentages for all the different demographics. Below is the entirety of what Trafalgar just published for their last North Carolina poll. Also, any pollster who gives numbers to decimal points probably shouldn't be taken seriously. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Trafalgar Group aren't pollsters, they're Republican activists. Everything in the piece is "they would say that, wouldn't they". Anyone who's looked at a poll by decent UK pollsters will know it runs to pages with full break down in unweighted, weighted and percentages for all the different demographics. Below is the entirety of what Trafalgar just published for their last North Carolina poll. Also, any pollster who gives numbers to decimal points probably shouldn't be taken seriously. Rasmussen aren't much better. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotThePars Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Savage Henry said: That was after he was a Scottish SNP voting activist from Greenock, but before he was an American golf fan from the Deep South. Edit: he always tends to come back and disappear at the same time as that Banana troll who started the Trump thread. It’s mightily coincidental. Swampy was clearly a distinct poster from Banana. Swampy was also far cleverer than Banana. He was an oddball that was driven insane by something. The Nick Land of P&B. Edited November 2, 2020 by NotThePars 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 11 minutes ago, DeeTillEhDeh said: 23 minutes ago, GordonS said: Trafalgar Group aren't pollsters, they're Republican activists. Everything in the piece is "they would say that, wouldn't they". Anyone who's looked at a poll by decent UK pollsters will know it runs to pages with full break down in unweighted, weighted and percentages for all the different demographics. Below is the entirety of what Trafalgar just published for their last North Carolina poll. Also, any pollster who gives numbers to decimal points probably shouldn't be taken seriously. Rasmussen aren't much better. You can't even see their tables unless you sign up for their premium membership. My favourite is Insider Advantage - or, to give them their full name, Insider Advantage/Center For American Greatness Here's the full published tables for their most recent poll for North Carolina, showing 22.2% of registered Democrats saying they're voting for Trump. Ok. Incidentally , some aggregators like Real Clear Politics include all of these "pollsters" in their averages. This is why they have Biden ahead by 2.9 in Pennsylvania while 538 have Biden 4.8 ahead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 Getting a bit encouraged about my big bet on a Biden landslide by this from Fox News.. https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-republican-party-trouble-election-day-colin-reed 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 2 hours ago, Ralstonite said: I'm looking forward to this. I have Wednesday booked off work, so that I can witness the aftermath; though I am now being told the result might not be known for days. What do you think about the prospect of a Catholic winning? Ecumenical? At least it's not a pussy grabbing hoor or a muslim? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted November 2, 2020 Share Posted November 2, 2020 You can't even see their tables unless you sign up for their premium membership. My favourite is Insider Advantage - or, to give them their full name, Insider Advantage/Center For American Greatness [emoji848] Here's the full published tables for their most recent poll for North Carolina, showing 22.2% of registered Democrats saying they're voting for Trump. Ok. Incidentally , some aggregators like Real Clear Politics include all of these "pollsters" in their averages. This is why they have Biden ahead by 2.9 in Pennsylvania while 538 have Biden 4.8 ahead.Even Real Clear Politics are predicting a big Biden win. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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