Gordon EF Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Personally, I don't really care whether it's 18 or 22. I don't think either really represents as a big a problem as their opponents are making out. The only reason I can think of that clubs are wedded to 22 is if it came up in discussions that enough clubs were opposed to 18 (on the grounds that they think it's less likely they'll be able to get to whatever position in the league they're aiming for). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Moonster Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Aye, not following that "get it up Doncaster" angle. Clubs are making their own bed here and will have to lie in it, Doncaster has made his concerns known and is now happy to let us go ahead (if rumours are to be believed). Not sure where his feet are being held to the fire. Some clubs have clearly stood firm on the 22 games thing (Partick, Forfar and Clyde being my guesses) and others have agreed to it knowing that fitting in the full schedule is a complete no-go. I suppose one positive is that it appears all clubs have now tested their players and had a training session and we've not heard of any positive cases. We just need to hope any positive cases are minimal and that clubs are following protocol. If there's a big outbreak across a couple of sides then the game's a bogey. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jagsfan57 Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Beyond the end of players contracts you mean?I understood that the cut off date for some of the player contracts was 9th June. Of course there may be some players who couldn’t play, but I don’t have an issue with that. We are putting too many barriers around getting the games done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 (edited) It's absolutely nailed on no-one within the SPFL, least of all Doncaster, is feeling any pressure. He was selected for being impervious to pressure or any of the emotion others will feel. If the solution implemented doesn't succeed he will be absolutely confident of side stepping any blame. Edited March 11, 2021 by Sergeant Wilson 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, jagsfan57 said: I understood that the cut off date for some of the player contracts was 9th June. Of course there may be some players who couldn’t play, but I don’t have an issue with that. We are putting too many barriers around getting the games done. I am pleased you don't think some players not playing isn't an issue. I can imagine what will happen if a club in a relegation/promotion place watches a rival play a weakened team because 2/3/4/5 first team players just went out of contract. I would say the biggest barrier has been a pandemic. The season is ruined. Null and Void. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bairn in Exile Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 7 minutes ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: I am pleased you don't think some players not playing isn't an issue. I can imagine what will happen if a club in a relegation/promotion place watches a rival play a weakened team because 2/3/4/5 first team players just went out of contract. I would say the biggest barrier has been a pandemic. The season is ruined. Null and Void. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Bairn in Exile said: Insightful and hilarious - well worth the effort. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 I am pleased you don't think some players not playing isn't an issue. I can imagine what will happen if a club in a relegation/promotion place watches a rival play a weakened team because 2/3/4/5 first team players just went out of contract. I would say the biggest barrier has been a pandemic. The season is ruined. Null and Void.You realise this was a problem across Europe last year that is very easily fudged out of existence? You just get the players to extend their contract for a few weeks at the same salary and nearly all will agree.One or two may opt out, but so be it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthLanarkshireWhite Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 1 hour ago, Donathan said: You realise this was a problem across Europe last year that is very easily fudged out of existence? You just get the players to extend their contract for a few weeks at the same salary and nearly all will agree. One or two may opt out, but so be it. Probably. But if you were Robert of Airdrie with an offer on the table would you extend and risk an injury? I wouldn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passionate Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I'm still not 100% clear what the 22 game proposals involve. I get playing to 18 then split into 2x5. Does the next 4 games replace the play offs, or does 2-4 then play off with club 9 in the division above? Eta, I think I worked it out. These (games 19-22) would be play offs to get in to the play offs. Sarge, I think you've cracked it... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Passionate Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, SouthLanarkshireWhite said: Probably. But if you were Robert of Airdrie with an offer on the table would you extend and risk an injury? I wouldn't. Thomas Robert is signed up to the end of season 21\22 , but I get the analogy , feel free to quite the rest of our players who will be free agents at said time.. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 All of this is irrelevant because none of the proposals involve playing beyond the end of May. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 9 hours ago, Sergeant Wilson said: I'm still not 100% clear what the 22 game proposals involve. I get playing to 18 then split into 2x5. Does the next 4 games replace the play offs, or does 2-4 then play off with club 9 in the division above? Eta, I think I worked it out. These (games 19-22) would be play offs to get in to the play offs. Games 19-22 would be for one loser as one team would be automatic promotion and 3 in the play offs By feck 2nd and 3rd will be sick of the sight of each other having played each other 3 times in a few weeks if the 22 gets the go ahead 7 hours ago, Gordon EF said: Personally, I don't really care whether it's 18 or 22. I don't think either really represents as a big a problem as their opponents are making out. The only reason I can think of that clubs are wedded to 22 is if it came up in discussions that enough clubs were opposed to 18 (on the grounds that they think it's less likely they'll be able to get to whatever position in the league they're aiming for). 22 games gives Clyde 15 plus games in 10 weeks, they have a cup tie with an excellent chance to progress and if they are in a play off position 2 games within a week and possibly 4 in 2 weeks if succesful. After a long lay off, I dont think the ideal scenario is the chance of 15/16/17 games in 10 weeks and thats without play offs. 18 games is for sure the sensible option, wiggle room if cup runs happen or covid 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon EF Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, MrDust said: a play off position 2 games within a week and possibly 4 in 2 weeks if succesful. After a long lay off, I dont think the ideal scenario is the chance of 15/16/17 games in 10 weeks and thats without play offs. Yeah, totally accept it's not ideal but I suppose my point is more that none of this is ideal and I don't think either option is totally unworkable if there was a bit of will to do it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, MrDust said: Games 19-22 would be for one loser as one team would be automatic promotion and 3 in the play offs By feck 2nd and 3rd will be sick of the sight of each other having played each other 3 times in a few weeks if the 22 gets the go ahead 22 games gives Clyde 15 plus games in 10 weeks, they have a cup tie with an excellent chance to progress and if they are in a play off position 2 games within a week and possibly 4 in 2 weeks if succesful. After a long lay off, I dont think the ideal scenario is the chance of 15/16/17 games in 10 weeks and thats without play offs. 18 games is for sure the sensible option, wiggle room if cup runs happen or covid There's no good way of finishing the season, just the least bad. I suppose 2nd after 22 could play the play off with the club from the division above, but I can't see potential 3rd and 4th swallowing that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandomGuy. Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 10 hours ago, Passionate said: I personally think the clubs are quite rightly holding Doncaster and co feet to the , they have constantly hidden behind Scot gov and showed a general apathy to lower league football throughout this and probably next season to, The clubs have made t here decision and expect it to be threatened as usual , The silence is deafening...... Why would Doncaster care? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Firhill Frozen Pie Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 2 hours ago, RandomGuy. said: Why would Doncaster care? He doesn't, which is shown by his priority of shoehorning sevco and celtic colts into the lower leagues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 5 minutes ago, The Firhill Frozen Pie said: He doesn't, which is shown by his priority of shoehorning sevco and celtic colts into the lower leagues. He doesn't give a shite about that either. Rangers and Celtic want it, he does what he's told. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted March 11, 2021 Share Posted March 11, 2021 Get the season over and done with at this stage, I was all for the 22 game season last week as the split works great in the Premiership but a week on let’s just do the 18 and move on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
macclyde+ Posted March 12, 2021 Share Posted March 12, 2021 Let's be honest a 22 game season plus Scottish Cup is never going to work, as it's too tight to allow for Covid postponements (which are almost inevitable). Get the 18 game season up and running ffs 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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