Tory Lies, Corruption and Hypocrisy- Add Them Here

[Soapy FFC]

10 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

PMQ's was awful.

"But you supported Corbyn 5 years ago!" is his answer to everything.

But the Truss and Johnson govts, of which he was a major part, will be nothing to do with him and the current govt. 

[oneteaminglasgow]

15 minutes ago, Soapy FFC said:

But the Truss and Johnson govts, of which he was a major part, will be nothing to do with him and the current govt. 

I don’t think that he was actually in the Truss Government as a Minister.

Not that it matters given that it only lasted about 20 minutes.

[Soapy FFC]

2 minutes ago, oneteaminglasgow said:

I don’t think that he was actually in the Truss Government as a Minister.

Not that it matters given that it only lasted about 20 minutes.

I was thinking that after I posted, but like you said it was so short it probably doesn't matter.

[welshbairn]

I think Sunak's played a blinder. He knows full well he has zero chance of winning the next election, he's got rid of the most annoying people he has to work with, has put the loony right back in their box, can try and keep the government steady for the next year without total idiots fucking things up and leave with a reasonable reputation when he loses the election and moves to California to start a hedge fund using his father in law's money. 

[effeffsee_the2nd]

18 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I think Sunak's played a blinder. He knows full well he has zero chance of winning the next election, he's got rid of the most annoying people he has to work with, has put the loony right back in their box, can try and keep the government steady for the next year without total idiots fucking things up and leave with a reasonable reputation when he loses the election and moves to California to start a hedge fund using his father in law's money. 

given his circumstances, why the f**k would you even bother trying to do a job like being prime minister right now, why not just go straight to that?

[Salt n Vinegar]

Some Tory voices seem to be suggesting that the UK should just leave all these pesky treaties and agreements to just let the UK do whatever it wants.  As I understand it, these rules not only apply to immigration, they also protect citizens (subjects?) from maltreatment by their own government.

Perhaps we could get a list of all these protections so that when they are all repealed/ repudiated, we can know what a UK government will be allowed to do? I'm particularly looking forward to a future government being able to deport (or maybe even torture?) political opponents. Braverman seems keen on Rwanda. Just a thought.  Pack yer bags, Suella, pick a windae, yer leavin'.

[welshbairn]

12 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

given his circumstances, why the f**k would you even bother trying to do a job like being prime minister right now, why not just go straight to that?

To salvage his reputation and distance himself from the likes of Truss and Johnson. A reputation for weakness and incompetence would follow him into any career. 

[Alert Mongoose]

Does this mean that if someone were to plunge a dirk into this guy's neck, they wouldn't be liable for legal sanction?

 

[Arch Stanton]

3 hours ago, Suspect Device said:

SO how much money have we wasted on this unlawful and unworkable scheme?

Including legal fees.

Pretty sure Starmer said it was £140m during PMQs.

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

2 hours ago, coprolite said:

ECHR to be under attack next. I can’t see it capturing the popular/ignorant imagination like the EU did but a quarter of a century ago I couldn’t envisage mass participation giving-a-shit about the EU, so who knows. Maybe thirty years as a fringe Tory and Tory press obsession might do the job on that too.

The fact that being outside the ECHR wouldn’t have affected today’s decision is irrelevant.

They will absolutely degrade our rights under the guise of ‘stopping the boats’ and ‘taking are country back’ type shite. All those gammony fuckers who voted brexit, ANYONE WHO VOTED FOR BREXIT IS A FUD will applaud it like a fucking seal, despite it opening the door for them to make you work longer for less, with less rights, less holidays. Honestly the electorate in this country are thick. 

[oneteaminglasgow]

19 minutes ago, Arch Stanton said:

Pretty sure Starmer said it was £140m during PMQs.

That’s just what they gave the Rwandan government, so when you throw in legal fees defending it (numerous times), civil servant time spent on it, Stella’s visit to Rwanda etc it’ll be more than that. 

[parsforlife]

8 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

They will absolutely degrade our rights under the guise of ‘stopping the boats’ and ‘taking are country back’ type shite. All those gammony fuckers who voted brexit, ANYONE WHO VOTED FOR BREXIT IS A FUD will applaud it like a fucking seal, despite it opening the door for them to make you work longer for less, with less rights, less holidays. Honestly the electorate in this country are thick. 

Genuinely an element who would give up their own rights just so someone else gets a worse time too.

[scottsdad]

20 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

They will absolutely degrade our rights under the guise of ‘stopping the boats’ and ‘taking are country back’ type shite. All those gammony fuckers who voted brexit, ANYONE WHO VOTED FOR BREXIT IS A FUD will applaud it like a fucking seal, despite it opening the door for them to make you work longer for less, with less rights, less holidays. Honestly the electorate in this country are thick. 

@Granny Danger

[carpetmonster]

17 minutes ago, parsforlife said:

Genuinely an element who would give up their own rights just so someone else gets a worse time too.

Yup. The last US government shutdown produced an absolute belter from an absolute belter:

A few miles away, another prison employee, Crystal Minton, accompanied her fiancé to a friend's house to help clear the remnants of a metal roof mangled by the hurricane. Ms. Minton, a 38-year-old secretary, said she had obtained permission from the warden to put off her Mississippi duty until early February because she is a single mother caring for disabled parents. Her fiancé plans to take vacation days to look after Ms. Minton's 7-year-old twins once she has to go to work.The shutdown on top of the hurricane has caused Ms. Minton to rethink a lot of things."I voted for him, and he's the one who's doing this," she said of Mr. Trump. "I thought he was going to do good things. He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting."

[effeffsee_the2nd]

18 minutes ago, parsforlife said:

Genuinely an element who would give up their own rights just so someone else gets a worse time too.

people rarely think that these things will effect THEM, in their minds things like;

due process & right to a fair trial = scumbags getting off with crimes they ought to be punished for. 

trade unions keep lazy/ incompetent people from getting the sack

Most people don't think there will ever be a malicious complaint made against them or they will have an arsehole for a boss who might try to blade them for their own f**k up.

You see headlines of people complaining about long lines at passport control with " this isn't the brexit we voted for" or "eu punishing brits for leaving"  well, I'm sorry but yes it was the brexit you voted for, you demanded that freedom of movement was ended and it was, the fact that you didn't think it would be your  freedom of movement affect too, is on you i'm afraid

[Hedgecutter]

1 hour ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

Some Tory voices seem to be suggesting that the UK should just leave all these pesky treaties and agreements to just let the UK do whatever it wants.  As I understand it, these rules not only apply to immigration, they also protect citizens (subjects?) from maltreatment by their own government.

Perhaps we could get a list of all these protections so that when they are all repealed/ repudiated, we can know what a UK government will be allowed to do? I'm particularly looking forward to a future government being able to deport (or maybe even torture?) political opponents. Braverman seems keen on Rwanda. Just a thought.  Pack yer bags, Suella, pick a windae, yer leavin'.

The actions of the govt remind me of that primary school kid who always wants to change the rules of the game as soon as it becomes apparent that he/she won't be king of the castle.

"How about we change it so that..."

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

31 minutes ago, scottsdad said:

@Granny Danger

He knows. But probably in fairness to him he doesnt come across like a gammon, im sure there was some kind of 4d chess reason he gave. Still absolutely idiotic but doesnt seem to have been right wing motivated. 

Edited November 15, 2023 by Inanimate Carbon Rod

[Suspect Device]

27 minutes ago, effeffsee_the2nd said:

people rarely think that these things will effect THEM, in their minds things like;

due process & right to a fair trial = scumbags getting off with crimes they ought to be punished for. 

trade unions keep lazy/ incompetent people from getting the sack

Most people don't think there will ever be a malicious complaint made against them or they will have an arsehole for a boss who might try to blade them for their own f**k up.

You see headlines of people complaining about long lines at passport control with " this isn't the brexit we voted for" or "eu punishing brits for leaving"  well, I'm sorry but yes it was the brexit you voted for, you demanded that freedom of movement was ended and it was, the fact that you didn't think it would be your  freedom of movement affect too, is on you i'm afraid

Rough working conditions in Falkirk.

[Boo Khaki]

It's getting closer to reality the longer these fuckers are in charge. 

[scottsdad]

26 minutes ago, Inanimate Carbon Rod said:

He knows. But probably in fairness to him he doesnt come across like a gammon, im sure there was some kind of 4d chess reason he gave. Still absolutely idiotic but doesnt seem to have been right wing motivated. 

Kind of like saying the nicest things in the world whist feeding live puppies into a wood chipper.