GHF-23 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: I was thinking about Begbie the other day actually. Irvine Welsh has said that he is based on four or five people he knew growing up and as a young man. In various books Begbie is painted as part of the Young Leith Team, thr YLT. There are various articles about the ‘glory days’ of the YLT, including this one that goes into detail about one of the main men in the gang in the 70s and 80s, a character known as Bronco, real name Ian Macleod, who is now in his 60s. https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Crime+Capital%3B+The+street+gangs+of+the+1960s+and+70s+spawned+a+new...-a0130202910 Bronco is current unavailable as he is in prison awaiting trial alongside his son for a double murder in a Niddrie tower block. Rumours are that the victims had the letters “YLT” burned into their flesh with a blowtorch. https://news.stv.tv/east-central/edinburgh-father-and-son-accused-of-blowtorching-letters-onto-victims-heads-in-torture-murder Unsure if there’s a trial date for that one! My brother was one of the first polis on the scene, believe they were called for a separate reason and discovered the body. Not pleasant 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thane of Cawdor Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: I was thinking about Begbie the other day actually. Irvine Welsh has said that he is based on four or five people he knew growing up and as a young man. In various books Begbie is painted as part of the Young Leith Team, thr YLT. There are various articles about the ‘glory days’ of the YLT, including this one that goes into detail about one of the main men in the gang in the 70s and 80s, a character known as Bronco, real name Ian Macleod, who is now in his 60s. https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Crime+Capital%3B+The+street+gangs+of+the+1960s+and+70s+spawned+a+new...-a0130202910 Bronco is current unavailable as he is in prison awaiting trial alongside his son for a double murder in a Niddrie tower block. Rumours are that the victims had the letters “YLT” burned into their flesh with a blowtorch. https://news.stv.tv/east-central/edinburgh-father-and-son-accused-of-blowtorching-letters-onto-victims-heads-in-torture-murder Unsure if there’s a trial date for that one! I know he can be a bit robust in expressing his opinions on here, but this is an unexpected revelation. As well as claims he was attacked with a Stanley knife, machetes and a hammer, the letters “VT”, “YT” or “YLT” were also allegedly left on his head with a blowtorch. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RawB93 Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 Suspect no.1 IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 10 Author Share Posted January 10 53 minutes ago, Thane of Cawdor said: I know he can be a bit robust in expressing his opinions on here, but this is an unexpected revelation. As well as claims he was attacked with a Stanley knife, machetes and a hammer, the letters “VT”, “YT” or “YLT” were also allegedly left on his head with a blowtorch. We’ve had P&B weddings and P&B babies, it’s about time we had a P&B torture murder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 1 minute ago, ICTChris said: We’ve had P&B weddings and P&B babies, it’s about time we had a P&B torture murder. Does "I spent all morning sledgehammering cows" qualify ? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honest Saints Fan Posted January 10 Share Posted January 10 7 minutes ago, ICTChris said: We’ve had P&B weddings and P&B babies, it’s about time we had a P&B torture murder. I could complete the hat-trick. 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superbigal Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 Avoided the Pokey somehow this crimelord in Dundee https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-68084851 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 £40k and never got the jail 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 53 minutes ago, superbigal said: Avoided the Pokey somehow this crimelord in Dundee https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-tayside-central-68084851 22 minutes ago, Derry Alli said: £40k and never got the jail I liked the "she would struggle with a custodial sentence" Is that not the fucking point? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 14 minutes ago, Empty It said: I liked the "she would struggle with a custodial sentence" Is that not the fucking point? It's supposed to be anything g over about £17.5k is an automatic custodial. She's doubled it and some. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Central Belt Caley Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 3 hours ago, Derry Alli said: It's supposed to be anything g over about £17.5k is an automatic custodial. She's doubled it and some. Lassie I used to work with stole £21k over a year and got 9 months That auld dears got 200 hours cs for stealing 40k, works out at £200 an hour no bad for some 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lyle Lanley Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 2 hours ago, Central Belt Caley said: Lassie I used to work with stole £21k over a year and got 9 months That auld dears got 200 hours cs for stealing 40k, works out at £200 an hour no bad for some Someone I know stole over 18k at her work and got community service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Derry Alli Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 3 hours ago, Central Belt Caley said: Lassie I used to work with stole £21k over a year and got 9 months That auld dears got 200 hours cs for stealing 40k, works out at £200 an hour no bad for some Like the story here, I know somebody whose charge was £23k, reduced to £16k on appeal and they got a year. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lofarl Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 This crime business actually seems somewhat profitable. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 7 minutes ago, Lofarl said: This crime business actually seems somewhat profitable. There was an old 24 Hours in Police custody on this week and it featured a gang of drug dealers being rounded up in Luton. They were all tracksuit wearing kids basically, very young. They all looked like they were playing at being gangsters but at the end the police worked out they were making £100,000 a week selling crack and heroin. These guys weren’t the godfathers of Luton, they were a bunch of mates. Crazy the money that’s can be made in drugs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 23 minutes ago, ICTChris said: There was an old 24 Hours in Police custody on this week and it featured a gang of drug dealers being rounded up in Luton. They were all tracksuit wearing kids basically, very young. They all looked like they were playing at being gangsters but at the end the police worked out they were making £100,000 a week selling crack and heroin. These guys weren’t the godfathers of Luton, they were a bunch of mates. Crazy the money that’s can be made in drugs. Its not all profit though, they need to buy the stuff and have transport, security and warehousing costs to consider. No tax though, so its not all bad news. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: There was an old 24 Hours in Police custody on this week and it featured a gang of drug dealers being rounded up in Luton. They were all tracksuit wearing kids basically, very young. They all looked like they were playing at being gangsters but at the end the police worked out they were making £100,000 a week selling crack and heroin. These guys weren’t the godfathers of Luton, they were a bunch of mates. Crazy the money that’s can be made in drugs. And it's a victimless crime. You're just selling what people want. I have noticed that, like policemen, criminals are getting younger. I asked an old gangster I know about this and he explained that each generation of criminals start younger and are more ruthless than the one before. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ICTChris Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 23 minutes ago, Sergeant Wilson said: And it's a victimless crime. You're just selling what people want. I have noticed that, like policemen, criminals are getting younger. I asked an old gangster I know about this and he explained that each generation of criminals start younger and are more ruthless than the one before. All the P&B old duffers should start a drug gang, no-one will suspect us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Florentine_Pogen Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 27 minutes ago, ICTChris said: All the P&B old duffers should start a drug gang, no-one will suspect us. I have some out-of-date Amoxicyllin and Doxicycline. Might have some difficulty in sourcing a MAC10 and some pensioners hooses to cuckoo, though............... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Wilson Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 1 hour ago, ICTChris said: All the P&B old duffers should start a drug gang, no-one will suspect us. I had that theory a while back. If I could think of one big job I could carry out. The police would round up the usual suspects. I wouldn't be suspected of such a crime with no history of it. I also seen somebody got a few years for child benefit fraud. He'd gotten away with it for years but got lazy. It was pretty much the same plan I had when I worked in DHSS, but never had the bottle to start it. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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