Silvio Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 What a double save from Kelly at 2-2. Saved a point for his side. I was also to the left of the goal and the penalty save was fantastic. Who'd be a goalkeeper ! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Any chance St Mirren’s first was offside? Kelly was in Hearts mode in defending it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisGRAEME Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 3 minutes ago, ropy said: Any chance St Mirren’s first was offside? Kelly was in Hearts mode in defending it. Thought Mugabi was playing him on, McGinley in absolute no-mans land. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McG Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Good comeback but we should of won that over the piece, by far the better team. What a signing Brophy is turning out to be. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YassinMoutaouakil Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Don't even have it in me to do a snarky "congratulations to St Mirren on winning the league!" post about their pitch invasion. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishBhoy Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Ronan is different class. He had a few wayward passes in the first half but apart from that he’s absolutely excellent on the ball. Couple of lovely wee flicks as well. Though Watt was good for Motherwell. I got a notification saying Watt had scored about 60 seconds before ‘Wells first goal, and Watt was about 40 yards from goal. Very clever movement to get himself to the back post when he seen the ball was heading out left. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ropy Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Very soft penalty but maybe just sneaks into the spectrum of possible decisions. The retake decision was a nonsense, feel cheated. Bright colours on the TV though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenburn bud Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I Thought McFadden was going to burst into tears on Sportscene, while talking about the penalty retake. Glorious stuff. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Archie McSquackle Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 We were poor tonight and St. Mirren didn't deserve to lose but we should be seeing out a 2 goal lead. We seem to have lost the solidity we had earlier in the season even when not playing well. It wouldn't be a game against St. Mirren without them getting a dubious penalty and having just watched Sportscene it's not a penalty for me. Even if Solhom has his leg out, Brophy plants his feet and starts his fall before any contact. He then collides with Solholm's body, not his leg - where was he supposed to disappear to? And the decision to award a retake just compounds the error. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZX1886 Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 I don’t think it was a penalty, and I certainly don’t think it should’ve been a retake. However it would’ve been absolute robbery if we’d got away with 3pts tonight. Rangers will find playing against us very easy on Sunday.Not sure if I could put up with another 90 minutes of Alexander’s brand of Football terrorism this week. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthBank Posted October 27, 2021 Share Posted October 27, 2021 Well that was a pretty dominant performance away from home besides having few efforts on goal in the first half. Flynn was excellent as was McAllister. 1 point away from home is ok but it feels like 2 points dropped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IrishBhoy Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) I think it’s plausible that Kelly’s foot is off the line when the penalty is taken, however there is absolutely no way to be sure with the camera angle we have got. I don’t think an Assistant referee would go out his way to get involved in such a critical decision if he wasn’t 100% sure, knowing how bad he would look if there turned out to be evidence he was wrong. Edit - I should say I think it’s an absolutely stinking law that has been brought in. The taker can stutter his run, jump in the air, speed up, slow down or even do a backflip if he wanted to, in order to beat the keeper. But a keeper moves his feet half an inch in front of the line it’s a retake? I thought Madden had a pretty poor game tonight, the two penalty decisions excepted. I wanted St Mirren to win, but after he booked Alexander it was almost like he had went in a huff with Motherwell and there was a couple of baffling decisions that went against them. The one I’m thinking of happened late in the game at the corner of the box infront of the Well Bois. O Donnell and a Saints player slid in for what looked like a 50/50. Madden blows his whistle as the players stare at him blankly, before a few seconds later indicates a free kick to St Mirren. Also I think referees need to see confirmation of funeral arrangements before Curtis Main gets awarded a free kick, that’s not just Madden though. Edited October 28, 2021 by IrishBhoy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
djchapsticks Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 (edited) 5 hours ago, IrishBhoy said: I think it’s plausible that Kelly’s foot is off the line when the penalty is taken, however there is absolutely no way to be sure with the camera angle we have got. I don’t think an Assistant referee would go out his way to get involved in such a critical decision if he wasn’t 100% sure, knowing how bad he would look if there turned out to be evidence he was wrong. Edit - I should say I think it’s an absolutely stinking law that has been brought in. The taker can stutter his run, jump in the air, speed up, slow down or even do a backflip if he wanted to, in order to beat the keeper. But a keeper moves his feet half an inch in front of the line it’s a retake? I thought Madden had a pretty poor game tonight, the two penalty decisions excepted. I wanted St Mirren to win, but after he booked Alexander it was almost like he had went in a huff with Motherwell and there was a couple of baffling decisions that went against them. The one I’m thinking of happened late in the game at the corner of the box infront of the Well Bois. O Donnell and a Saints player slid in for what looked like a 50/50. Madden blows his whistle as the players stare at him blankly, before a few seconds later indicates a free kick to St Mirren. Also I think referees need to see confirmation of funeral arrangements before Curtis Main gets awarded a free kick, that’s not just Madden though. I think with the incident you're talking about, there's no foul in the challenge itself, was a robust tackle from two player but Madden had already made the decision there was a foul in there somewhere. SOD gives him a get out of jail free on the shite decision by then sort of putting his body weight (deliberately or not) on Brophy preventing him getting up and at that point, Madden has his easy decision to make. Agree though, some of his decisions in the second half particularly were baffling. Just as some in the first half against us were, though not as impactful as the penalty. The steadfast refusal to give a foul on Curtis Main, the lack of booking for SOD when pulling Tansers shirt back as he was getting away to get a cross in. The penalty is a weird one. He does look like he's off his line a tiny bit but it's exceptionally harsh given he's no more so than we see a lot of keepers doing nowadays and getting away with on the regular. Unreal that our legendary penalty shootout against Dundee United not even 4 years ago where Vaclav Hladky saved nearly everything would have been all retakes today. He's a cracking keeper though, is Liam Kelly and I wouldn't be surprised if he finds himself as Scotlands number 1 when all our older options have chucked it post World Cup/qualifying campaign. Even the first goal that he's being blamed a bit for, he does well to force Brophy very wide, it's just a tremendous finish by a player in fine form. Edited October 28, 2021 by djchapsticks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Manhattan Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 7 hours ago, NorthBank said: it feels like 2 points dropped. When both sides come away feeling like it's 2 points dropped, it's usually either been a very good game or a very bad game. Take your pick. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorky Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Sadly the usual standard of Scottish referees continue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fat_tony Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 The one I’m thinking of happened late in the game at the corner of the box infront of the Well Bois. O Donnell and a Saints player slid in for what looked like a 50/50. Madden blows his whistle as the players stare at him blankly, before a few seconds later indicates a free kick to St Mirren. Also I think referees need to see confirmation of funeral arrangements before Curtis Main gets awarded a free kick, that’s not just Madden though.That bit with SOD and Brophy was just a 50/50, nothing wrong at all, and Brophy quite cleverly pulled SOD down as he tried to get up, which in the book of Madden meant a Saints free kick. Baffling.It's been the same for Main almost since he arrived up here. Maybe take his first six months side, where nobody knew what he was about and he couldn't stop scoring for us. But since that following summer he can get absolutely battered for 90 minutes and not get anything out of the ref.I think because he seems to be in a perma-rage they decide this somehow translates to him being "unfoulable".Disappointed with that last night. It would have been an absolute mugging to win that given how Saints played, but to throw away a two goal lead like that was criminal. Two clever finishes from open play. Can't say I've massively rated Brophy in the past but he looks full of confidence right now and that was some finish from a difficult angle.We need to do something about our midfield (or lack thereof) as each week our defence is just under constant pressure.Thank f**k for Tony Watt. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shuggie_Murray7 Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 What's becoming frustrating is us absolutely dominating possession and having numerous chances and then going on to have a mad 5-10 minutes where we concede two goals. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allroy for Prez Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Never a penalty in 1000 years and he was still on his line when it was hit. Madden is a joke. Kelly and Mugabi at first goal are shocking. We’re absolutely murder however. Alexander’s brand of football and the continued playing of underperforming players has scunnered me. I can’t remember us ever having a less functional midfield. That’s 2 games in a row that we should’ve been able to see out and get more points than we’ve came away with, regardless of whether they were deserved or not. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coventry Saint Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 Only just seen the highlights but yeah, I'd say both our penalty award and also the retake decision are fairly odd. Usually with penalties not given I'm screaming 'that's a foul anywhere else on the park...' but I'm not even sure that's typically getting given elsewhere either. As for the retake, as @djchapsticks says, the offence is committed 99% of the time by goalies, but I think this looks like one of the lesser examples. So it's frankly bizarre that Madden's chosen that point to lay the law down. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted October 28, 2021 Share Posted October 28, 2021 I think Madden and the linesman watched the Chelsea v Norwich game on Saturday lunchtime where a penalty was saved but retaken. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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