Caledonian1 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 you can just predict the draw right now if we are unseeded...... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Just now, Caledonian1 said: you can just predict the draw right now if we are unseeded...... Yes, that was rather unfortunate. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual Insanity Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 2 hours ago, Donathan said: North Macedonia need a winner against Iceland to prevent Romania nicking their playoff berth. Either way that group is guaranteed to be unseeded. Finland/Ukraine group probably won’t be seeded either. Finland would need to beat France to get above us and Ukraine can’t get above us (but can finish second with a win in Bosnia and the Finns fail to beat France) The Croatia win was poor for us. We now need to either win, or draw + any 3 of: 1) Spain beat Sweden by 3+ (7:45pm tonight) 21.5% 2) Bulgaria beat Switzerland by 5+ (7:45pm tomorrow) basically impossible 3) Hungary beat Poland (7:45pm tomorrow) 16.9% 4) Finland fail to beat France by 3+ (Tuesday 7:45pm) almost certain 5) Belgium beat Wales (Tuesday 7:45pm) 41.3% 6) Netherlands get at least a point against Norway AND Turkey fail to beat Montenegro by 4 (Tuesday 7:45pm) 86.4% I still fancy our chances with a draw. 4) and 6) should go our way and you’d hope one of 1), 3) and 5) goes our way Finland are on 11 so that's in the bag. So a draw gives us a roughly 35% chance of being seeded. Vs 85% about a month ago per We Global Football. Pretty unlucky. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 7 minutes ago, welldaft said: Lets hope we avoid Portugal FFS. To be fair Serbia have been decent tonight and maybe shows what we achieved by beating them in the playoffs a year ago…. Portugal are a badly managed team built around Ronaldo's ego. Obviously we want to avoid them but if we got them at Hampden in a final I think we'd have a chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimi Shandrix Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 9 minutes ago, welldaft said: Lets hope we avoid Portugal FFS. To be fair Serbia have been decent tonight and maybe shows what we achieved by beating them in the playoffs a year ago…. You've got to be joking. Portugal are murder. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 You've got to be joking. Portugal are murder. Then what are we? Unless we beat Denmark by six tomorrow Portugal will have had a better qualification than us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Then what are we? Unless we beat Denmark by six tomorrow Portugal will have had a better qualification than us. In a much easier group. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimi Shandrix Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Just now, DiegoDiego said: 4 minutes ago, Jimi Shandrix said: You've got to be joking. Portugal are murder. Then what are we? Unless we beat Denmark by six tomorrow Portugal will have had a better qualification than us. Nobody claims Scotland are a great side though. Some people still have Portugal as one of the best teams in Europe. I watched them against both Eire and Serbia and they were atrocious in both games. I'd happily take Portugal in the play-offs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monthefife Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Oh for God's sake, Portugal. We are absolutely drawing them in our play off group, aren't we? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
accies1874 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I wonder if Portugal will have a new manager in for the play-offs. It is quite funny that they're the Manchester United of international football atm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimi Shandrix Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 4 minutes ago, accies1874 said: I wonder if Portugal will have a new manager in for the play-offs. It is quite funny that they're the Manchester United of international football atm. More like the Torquay United. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Donathan Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I really don’t see us winning in Portugal/Switzerland/Russia so for me, we need to win tomorrow night and get the seed and then pray that we get drawn to have our semi final as the home team for the final. A win tomorrow is imperative at this point. I genuinely think we have a < 20% chance of even making the final if we aren’t seeded whereas we’d probably be slight favourites at Hampden against any of the unseeded sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiegoDiego Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Nobody claims Scotland are a great side though.I think murder is gross hyperbole for any country good enough to make the playoffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 I know we beat them a year ago, but I definitely wouldn't have fancied drawing Serbia again. I think we caught them on an off day and I doubt they'd underestimate us this time. I wouldn't necessarily prefer Portugal, but we'd be going into the game with minimal expectation and they've definitely got a f**k-up in them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimi Shandrix Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 6 minutes ago, DiegoDiego said: I think murder is gross hyperbole for any country good enough to make the playoffs. Gross hyperbole in P&B shocker? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingjoey Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 5 hours ago, Donathan said: They shouldn’t really be losing at home to Norway You’re right, they shouldn’t be, but they were 2-0 up against Montenegro last night with 8 minutes left and drew 2-2. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IggyStooge Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 9 hours ago, craigkillie said: Portugal only needed a draw so there wasn't much incentive for them to win. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Winning in Ireland wouldn't have made the tiniest difference to them - they'd have still needed a draw tonight, which they failed to get. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoDevilovich Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 It's still gonna come down to us or Wales Netherlands will do the business v Norway, end of the day we're Scotland. We're never making anything straightforward 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Insert Amusing Pseudonym Posted November 14, 2021 Share Posted November 14, 2021 Forget Portugal, I've got the fear about Italy getting outscored by Switzerland and us having a trip to Rome. I think we have to win tomorrow, we have almost as good a shot at a seeding with a defeat as with a draw now 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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