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22 minutes ago, D Angelo Barksdale said:

Read that Vlad only polled 3% amongst ex-pats in Serbia, by far the lowest (think most were between 25-50% elsewhere) which was surprising.

I looked that up and its accurate.

I read this: 

https://balkaninsight.com/2024/03/18/russians-in-serbia-voted-heavily-against-putin-leaked-data-suggest/

It links to an exit poll suggesting Russians in Belgrade had only voted at 3% for Putin. However, the figure given after the vote count was up to 10%, a suspiciously round number. Voting was also stopped early with many Russians still waiting in line. Probably whoever administered it saw how things were going and wanted to quit while they were behind.

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16 hours ago, tam the bud said:

Putin is nothing but a coward. Never won a fair fight in his life, and I wish him nothing more than a long painful death as soon as possible. 

If (when?) Putin is taken out by someone he thought loyal, as he assuredly will at some point, there's going to be a Hell of a clear out of his placemen and flunkies.  Just hope there's some sane, not yet corrupted, punters around to fill the void.

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15 hours ago, D Angelo Barksdale said:

Read that Vlad only polled 3% amongst ex-pats in Serbia, by far the lowest (think most were between 25-50% elsewhere) which was surprising.

There's probably a fair few gone AWOL from the army or avoiding conscription.

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6 hours ago, Salt n Vinegar said:

If (when?) Putin is taken out by someone he thought loyal, as he assuredly will at some point, there's going to be a Hell of a clear out of his placemen and flunkies.  Just hope there's some sane, not yet corrupted, punters around to fill the void.

Been spoken about giving all the cash and assets that have been frozen by different  governments to Ukraine. Fine by me, if the rich Russians want their money and assets back, get rid of Putin, otherwise, say bye bye to your millions. 

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There seems to have been a pretty large scale gun attack in Moscow. Several attackers have targeted a concert hall in the city, reports of dozens killed.

This sort of attack has been seen before on Moscow, Chechen and other Islamist groups  carried out similar during the Chechen wars. Infamously a theatre was occupied with hostages taken in 2002, which ended with Russian special forces pumping gas into the venue and killing hundreds. There were reports of militants in Inigushetia a few weeks ago fighting local police but there hasn’t been a large scale attack on several years. Most of the radicals in the Caucausas went to Syria in the mid 2010s and almost all the leadership have been killed.

I’d be surprised if this was anything directly related to the war in Ukraine but as ever with Russia, who knows what will come out or what conclusions can be drawn?

Edited to add - the US publicly warned a few days ago of a potential terrorist attack in Moscow, specifically mentioning crowded venues and concerts. Putin dismissed this as “blackmail” and “an attempt to destabilise our society”.

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Just now, Newbornbairn said:

Didn't Putin stage a similar event to justify military action before?

The apartment bombings in 1999 took place just as he took office as Prime Minister under Yeltsin.

A number of apartment blocks were blown up in various Russian cities, hundreds were killed. This pre-empted the outbreak of the Second Chechen war.

In Ryazan, local police arrested a number of men who they found planting a bomb in the basement of an apartment building. After being hailed as great police work, it was quickly established tbh at the men arrested planting the bomb were local FSB agents. The FSB then stated that the agents had been taking part in a drill and the bomb wasn’t viable, they were testing local police reactions. The cops who found the bomb were certain it was viable.

There are lots of proponents of this as a false flag - it could well be one but it’s also true that the war in a Chechnya was probably inevitable and that elements of the Chechen rebels would happily have blown up Russian apartments.

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ISIS-K have claimed the attack, saying they were attacking Christians.

ISIS-K is the ISIS affiliate in Central Asia, mainly focused in Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iran, as well as some former Soviet republics in the area. Earlier this year they claimed the bombing at the tomb of Iranian general Soleimani. Not sure they’ve ever attacked so far outside their home area before.

Reports are that at least some of the attackers managed to escape.

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8 hours ago, The Golden God said:

Hopefully Vlad doesn’t. 

That type of shite is common in Kashmiri Pakistani communities in England (that guy's background). Around a decade ago there was a minor public figure called Asghar Bukhari who claimed Mossad stole one of his shoes from his home in Birmingham.

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2 hours ago, The Golden God said:

Hopefully Vlad doesn’t. 

Nah, Russia and Israel are allies (but in a different way than the US and Israel are allies) 

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