To B or not B Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 4 hours ago, Cowden Cowboy said: For being champions B teams are not eligible but no proscription on them being deemed runners up Rule H3 says otherwise - “League positions will be determined by home and away results between clubs in MEMBERSHIP” 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 2 hours ago, To B or not B said: Rule H3 says otherwise - “League positions will be determined by home and away results between clubs in MEMBERSHIP” Thus you were wrong in stating Cowdenbeath were 15th 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B or not B Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 38 minutes ago, Cowden Cowboy said: Thus you were wrong in stating Cowdenbeath were 15th But was right in the first place re Stirling Uni, that’s all you needed to say. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 10 hours ago, To B or not B said: Rule H3 says otherwise - “League positions will be determined by home and away results between clubs in MEMBERSHIP” There's a lot more to that rule than you've included. Which should be obvious since only counting results against clubs in membership, would mean all the Guest club results are scrubbed from the table. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jordi1977 Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 23 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: There's a lot more to that rule than you've included. Which should be obvious since only counting results against clubs in membership, would mean all the Guest club results are scrubbed from the table. Speaking of which... was there anyone keeping a track this season on how the league table would have looked without B Teams? I remember someone did it last season (apologies, totally can't remember who). It's a nice wee kinda "look at what you could have had" picture. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCScouting Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 7 minutes ago, Jordi1977 said: Speaking of which... was there anyone keeping a track this season on how the league table would have looked without B Teams? I remember someone did it last season (apologies, totally can't remember who). It's a nice wee kinda "look at what you could have had" picture. Can do it on Transfermarkt 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B or not B Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 34 minutes ago, FairWeatherFan said: There's a lot more to that rule than you've included. Which should be obvious since only counting results against clubs in membership, would mean all the Guest club results are scrubbed from the table. I don’t disagree, but for the purposes of the debate re Stirling Uni that part was most pertinent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 1 Author Share Posted May 1 1 minute ago, JCScouting said: Can do it on Transfermarkt Glad there's an easier way of doing it. Couldn't be bothered manually as none of the Top 4/bottom 2 changed. Surprised to see how Broomhill jumped. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JCScouting Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 (edited) Points Against B Teams: Cowdenbeath - 8pts Caley - 7pts East Stirling - 7pts Cumbernauld - 6pts East Kilbride - 6 pts Stirling - 6pts Berwick - 4pts Bo'ness - 4pts CSS - 3pts Tranent - 3pts Linlithgow - 2pts Albion Rovers - 1pt Gala - 1pt Gretna - 1pt Broomhill - 0pts Edinburgh Uni - 0pts Edited May 1 by JCScouting 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnieman Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 Broxburn win the EoS, and in the WoS two points (probably one) will secure the title for Beith who of course have no licence. So almost certainly Broxburn v Dalbeattie/Creetown for a place in the LL. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
To B or not B Posted May 1 Share Posted May 1 1 hour ago, Burnieman said: Broxburn win the EoS, and in the WoS two points (probably one) will secure the title for Beith who of course have no licence. So almost certainly Broxburn v Dalbeattie/Creetown for a place in the LL. So essentially Broxburn will be in the LL next season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 6 hours ago, To B or not B said: So essentially Broxburn will be in the LL next season. Hot favourites......but it's Fitbaw. Red cards, reflections, player availability.......... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 So...when was the last time that a vote took place on more relegation/tier 6 promotion and when are we likely to see another vote, which given the changing membership could go a different way this time? On 30/04/2024 at 16:51, Burnieman said: I feel sorry for the Non League Matters forum. Nothing to do with LTL btw as they just posted those news links in NLM - it's Dev who can't read and reposted someone else's subsequent question about Bronze licences for tier 5 (somehow even considering it a possibility). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted May 2 Author Share Posted May 2 24 minutes ago, Ginaro said: So...when was the last time that a vote took place on more relegation/tier 6 promotion and when are we likely to see another vote, which given the changing membership could go a different way this time? Last vote would have been April 2022. There was mention on here of a potential proposal around the time of the Colts being extended. Since it only takes a couple of clubs to put forward the idea. With all the "proper" clubs in the league now there shouldn't be an excuse for it not happening. Its why i've occasionally asked when the AGM is going to be. As last time the relegation idea was broached it came with different formats, and if it was happening again this year its been all quiet on that front. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowden Cowboy Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 (edited) 6 hours ago, FairWeatherFan said: Last vote would have been April 2022. There was mention on here of a potential proposal around the time of the Colts being extended. Since it only takes a couple of clubs to put forward the idea. With all the "proper" clubs in the league now there shouldn't be an excuse for it not happening. Its why i've occasionally asked when the AGM is going to be. As last time the relegation idea was broached it came with different formats, and if it was happening again this year its been all quiet on that front. A proposal would need to be fully fleshed out with all of its ramifications considered bearing in mind the plethora of possibilities that currently exist - one up to SPFL or no promotion and none down or one down and the impact that has at bottom plus the situation if champions from below are not licensed. That takes a good deal of work. In reality there will be many differing Club viewpoints which might not readily be reconciled into a one size fits all proposal. You would expect that if change was to come that a majority of clubs would need to coalesce into supporting one clear and coherent plan that covers all the bases - then put that forward knowing they have majority support. Edited May 2 by Cowden Cowboy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rockson Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 20 hours ago, Burnieman said: . So almost certainly Broxburn v Dalbeattie/Creetown for a place in the LL. Are Creetown licenced? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newcastle broon Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 17 minutes ago, rockson said: Are Creetown licenced? Yes a flat one sided ground with difficult views if busy but a nice hospitable club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 Creetown v Dalbeattie Star on Wednesday is both clubs last league games of this season. Creetown must win the game to win the SoSFL title. Any other result and Dalbeattie are champs. South Champs v Broxburn over 2 legs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deanburn Dave Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 The Lowland League finishes too early for 95% of the LL fans. Has to happen though because of the protectionist racket that is the Club 42 playoff. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stag Nation Posted May 2 Share Posted May 2 34 minutes ago, Deanburn Dave said: The Lowland League finishes too early for 95% of the LL fans. Has to happen though because of the protectionist racket that is the Club 42 playoff. The LL clubs must have known the timetable. Was anything stopping tcki off the season a week earlier? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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