Doonhamer doon south Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 1 hour ago, 19QOS19 said: 1 hour ago, Doonhamer doon south said: Whats your source for knowing those players want to come back. Don't know about Durnan but someone told me Holt had been in talks with us. Whats the obstacles, do you know? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Whats the obstacles, do you know? No idea. I assume finances which would contradict what I've just said but providing it was good enough for him and his family to live on then I'd hope we could offer a decent deal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 13 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: No idea. I assume finances which would contradict what I've just said but providing it was good enough for him and his family to live on then I'd hope we could offer a decent deal. Fair enough. I would like to see him back at the club but i feel your earlier post was more accurate where its not just about money that could be the obstacle to a deal being made. It could be any number of unknown issues that stopping a deal being done. Although money is an issue, its not the sole decider in a deal being made. Northfield was a little too black and white on the subject hence my jumping on it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 You would imagine the level we play it would be a factor for Holt. He should be backing himself to do a job in the premiership still. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poet of the Macabre Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 16 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: Kind of O/T but I can remember McIntyre going nuts (celebrating) when we scored at Falkirk in the 2nd leg of the play-offs. I'll always like him for that alone! I can't remember the last manager who showed that kind of passion with a goal, though Naysmith did when Dobbie scored/didn't score against Morton at the end of the season. Jimmy Mac hates Falkirk. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluenortherner Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Are there really no decent players anymore in the lower divisions? Surely there is better than Mercer plying their trade and staring for their team every other week and just not getting the opportunity to play at a higher level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 19 minutes ago, Bluenortherner said: Are there really no decent players anymore in the lower divisions? Surely there is better than Mercer plying their trade and staring for their team every other week and just not getting the opportunity to play at a higher level. You've pretty much just described Scott Mercer 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dumfries Boy(new acc) Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Regards Durnan it's clear to see that he would be interested in coming back but it's not what we are looking for,and him saying "Great club but no contact" confirms this. Fordyce can play Full back if needed but he's best at CB IMO. Holt on the otherhand is exactly what we need. Dont think it'll happen but if it does it'll be some coup 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fae_the_'briggs Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 46 minutes ago, Bluenortherner said: Are there really no decent players anymore in the lower divisions? Surely there is better than Mercer plying their trade and staring for their team every other week and just not getting the opportunity to play at a higher level. The problem I think is, and you saw it with Mercer, as an example, that players who look half decent in lower divisions struggle to make the step up right away. Unfortunately Mercer had a few iffy performances which affected his confidence and kept him out of the side for long spells. He did look like he was coming onto some form towards the end of the season which he can hopefully carry into the next season. No doubt some players may be able to make the step-up without a problem but until you see them actually involved it's a bit of a blind guess. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SUPERSOUTH Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Jason Talbot l/b freed by dunfermline worth considering? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Jason Talbot l/b freed by dunfermline worth considering? At least it would reduce the risk of an injury to our players if he was one of our own. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawk Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 33 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: 51 minutes ago, SUPERSOUTH said: Jason Talbot l/b freed by dunfermline worth considering? At least it would reduce the risk of an injury to our players if he was one of our own. Is he gonna train on his own? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NM_1919 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Jason Talbot l/b freed by dunfermline worth considering? No 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madton Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 16 hours ago, Doonhamer doon south said: Utter shite. Stephen dobbie is not with us for money, he is with us for the love of the club. Im sure there are other examples. Can't all be for the love of the club surely? Is he not paid 2k a week with you boys? Would he be there if he was getting paid £500 a week like the rest of the squad? Doubt it! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dougie Mills Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 6 minutes ago, madton said: Can't all be for the love of the club surely? Is he not paid 2k a week with you boys? Would he be there if he was getting paid £500 a week like the rest of the squad? Doubt it! Indeed, let’s not try and kid ourselves here. He may have got slightly more elsewhere and he obviously has a soft spot for the club but he certainly wouldn’t be here on the normal wages dished out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 Can't all be for the love of the club surely? Is he not paid 2k a week with you boys? Would he be there if he was getting paid £500 a week like the rest of the squad? Doubt it! Indeed, let’s not try and kid ourselves here. He may have got slightly more elsewhere and he obviously has a soft spot for the club but he certainly wouldn’t be here on the normal wages dished out. I imagine the amount he is on is what he requires eg. To cover travel costs and to ensure he still has a decent amount to live on. The point Northfield made is that every footballer will go to whoever is paying the most money. Do you think what we're paying him is the most he could have got? Highly doubtful. He could have easily been playing at a League 1 side (or even a Scottish prem. side) and making far more money. He's clearly needing enough money to make it worth his while but I doubt he's extorting the club with his wages. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Flash Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 (edited) 17 hours ago, 19QOS19 said: Absolutely. Players sign for clubs purely based on how much money they'll get. Things like:- - how they'll be utilised - the style the manager wants the team playing - whether they get on with the gaffer - if previous team-mates are currently at the club - if the move makes sense for their family mean absolutely nothing as long as the money on offer is better than everyone else. Possibly true, but Livi appear to be signing players when they have no manager in place (as we apparently did a couple of summers ago) so maybe the first three points aren’t always that important. I think if the money isn’t right to start with, and the difference is substantial, players won’t even consider any other matters. Obviously, when the gap is narrowed, they then have to weigh everything up. But there will be a good few clubs in this division that we can’t compete with, however much players would enjoy playing in Naysmith’s preferred style, etc. Eta I think Dobbie is also an exceptional case. We couldn’t, for example, attract any other players of his ability if they had no previous connection with the club. And there will be players of far less ability than him that are way out of our price range. Edited June 1, 2018 by Flash 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 5 minutes ago, 19QOS19 said: I imagine the amount he is on is what he requires eg. To cover travel costs and to ensure he still has a decent amount to live on. The point Northfield made is that every footballer will go to whoever is paying the most money. Do you think what we're paying him is the most he could have got? Highly doubtful. He could have easily been playing at a League 1 side (or even a Scottish prem. side) and making far more money. He's clearly needing enough money to make it worth his while but I doubt he's extorting the club with his wages. You're right, but Dobbie is in a very different position to someone like Holt or Durnan. Hes had a fairly succesful career down south and will have significantly more money in the bank than either of those two 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doonhamer doon south Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 26 minutes ago, madton said: Can't all be for the love of the club surely? Is he not paid 2k a week with you boys? Would he be there if he was getting paid £500 a week like the rest of the squad? Doubt it! Possibly not however it was well said on here about how he had offers at bigger clubs than ourselves. He said he would return one day and he did despite better offers apparently being offered. There are of course examples of players chasing money but northfield said that money is the most important thing to a footballer. I disagree to a degree. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted June 1, 2018 Share Posted June 1, 2018 You're right, but Dobbie is in a very different position to someone like Holt or Durnan. Hes had a fairly succesful career down south and will have significantly more money in the bank than either of those two Absolutely. But I still find the view 'players will always go to who pays them the most money' to be nonsense. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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