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Is he tall enough such that we can launch endless high balls to him.

If so a proportion of our fans would be delighted if we sign him.

Probably the reason why a proportion of supporters would welcome the signing of a tall target man is the fact that more often then not we do launch plenty of high balls up the park. If you don't do that you don't need a tall target man. Surely it makes sense to bring in the type of player to suit the tactics you use. Whether that style is pretty or not appreciated by some supporters is a separate issue which has been debated many times before. Against Alloa we looked to be trying to build attacks more by passing on the deck but in my opinion that approach seems to have been the exception rather than the norm for games so far this season.

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I posted this in the transfer window thread, but heard a rumour today from a St Johnstone fan today that we, along with Dundee, are looking at signing Rory Fallon. Saints have told him he can find another club. Reviews are not favourable to him.

Dundee don't learn from previous misdemeanors do they. Maybe just paper talk but they are linked with everyone and these players won't come cheap. Be surprised if we got him tbh.

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Probably the reason why a proportion of supporters would welcome the signing of a tall target man is the fact that more often then not we do launch plenty of high balls up the park. If you don't do that you don't need a tall target man. Surely it makes sense to bring in the type of player to suit the tactics you use. Whether that style is pretty or not appreciated by some supporters is a separate issue which has been debated many times before. Against Alloa we looked to be trying to build attacks more by passing on the deck but in my opinion that approach seems to have been the exception rather than the norm for games so far this season.

Either you havent been to many games or youve been sleeping through them :P If theres one thing thats been obvious all season its that McIntyres teams at least try and play football on the deck.

Ive said it before, but both Reilly and Lyle are decent enough in the air for the times when the ball is hit long. Both won their fair share of headers yesterday against Gordon and Marr, both very decent centre backs at this level.

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Don't think Fallon would be that bad tbh. This is a guy who scored the goal to get New Zealand into the last world cup. He then featured in all 3 games. He is still a regular international and only in november scored against Mexico. Surely the Mexico defence will be tougher to score against than anything the championship has to offer. Also remember seeing him for Aberdeen and he looked a decent target man which offers a different dimension.

On a different note got to say the official website is pretty brilliant these days. Colourful, kept up to date and packed with information. You would be hard pressed to find a better official site in the whole of Scottish football

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Either you havent been to many games or youve been sleeping through them :P If theres one thing thats been obvious all season its that McIntyres teams at least try and play football on the deck.

Ive said it before, but both Reilly and Lyle are decent enough in the air for the times when the ball is hit long. Both won their fair share of headers yesterday against Gordon and Marr, both very decent centre backs at this level.

I have been to every competitive Queens game so far this season and managed to stay awake long enough to see goal-kicks, keepers clearances from pass-backs and defenders clearing their lines by means of the long ball as a regular occurrence outweighing the number of times it is played out by passing on the deck. Even when defenders are trying to play it out or keep possession by passing the ball across the back line it very often resorts to a long kick up the park when the opposition pushes up to close the defenders down, Higgy and Durnan are especially prone to delivering this "out" ball when under pressure.

As for your opinion that Reilly and Lyle are good enough in the air, my view is that Lyle is adequate at best with dealing with high balls and headed flick-ons but high balls to Reilly are, in the most part, a waste of time as he would come off worst 9 times out of 10 against a taller, more physical opponent. His strong point is his ability and speed on the deck, even then he could do to man up or get a bit more savvy on how to deal with defenders prone give him a sly nudge or tug just as he is about to control the ball. That lesson may be learned with a bit more experience.

As for tactics and formations, I am not expert enough or interested enough in which formation we play, formations are pretty fluid and changeable throughout a game anyway depending on circumstances as they happen. All that concerns me is that, irrespective of whatever style of football we play, we have the type of players available that gives us the best chance to adapt to what is needed, and that includes hitting long balls out of defence. Bottom line, whatever it takes to win games, within the rules of course, is fine by me.

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Ok, Saturday and a very good three points out of the way, it's time for the next leg of the player naming challenge.

Ian McCall was appointed manager on 10th November 2005 after Stuart Lovell had held the fort for a couple of weeks when Iain Scott was sacked. McCall departed on 28th April 2007 following the last game of the season against Airdrie United, though it had been confirmed in the prior week that he would be leaving at the end of the season. He was in charge for 17.5 months including three transfer windows. During that time he signed a total of 26 players for the club. Can you name them?

As before some ground rules:

1 - Re-signing players who were already at the club to new contracts does not count. Signing players who had previous spells at the club but had been elsewhere in the meantime though does of course count.

2 - Handing professional contracts to players who came up through the youth ranks does not count.

3 - Loans do count. As does signings directly from another side or free agents obviously.

McCall's total of 26 includes 7 loan signings and 19 fully contracted ones. 24 of the 25 actually played a game for us at first team level, one only made it as far as being an unused substitute in competitive games. Six of his signings would start in the Scottish Cup Final just over one year after his departure, he certainly had more success in the market than Scott, though he had his failures too. There is one player who was signed twice in two distinct separate spells by McCall. He's only counted once in the list.

Fire away......................

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2.

3. Ryan McStay (loan from Falkirk)

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5. Andy Thomson (free transfer from Falkirk)

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10.

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12. Barry John Corr (freedom of contract from Stranraer)

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14. Scott McKenzie (free agent from hamilton Academical)

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21. Jamie McQuilken (free transfer from Gretna)

22. Stephen Dobbie (a Gift from God himself............ok, free transfer from St Johnstone then)

23. Jamie MacDonald (loan from Hearts)

24.

25.

26. Stevie Tosh (free transfer from Gretna)

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John Stewart

No

Also Ryan McCann?

Also no.

I'll start with the inimitable Stephen Dobbie.

The best thing McCall or almost anyone has done at this club.

Of course. No 22 on McCall's list.

Andy Thomson, Scott McKenzie, Ryan McStay, Stevie Tosh, Jamie McQuilken

No 5, 14, 3, 26 and 21 respectively

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