P45 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Sweating. You guys have Mark Kerr and Andy Dowie right? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS LEFT PEG Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 The chances of a fourth placed team (us) battling through four extremely tough games to then beat a fresh SPL team - that have had their feet up - is slim to say the least. I believe we will finish fourth , failing in the play offs but will enjoy anyway. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Del. Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 You guys have Mark Kerr and Andy Dowie right? Correct. Andy Dowie is solid. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I don't think we will be promoted either. My comment was with regard to SD's table that showed us as being the form team in the league. If that continues we would give ourselves a fighting chance at succeeding in the playoffs. Particularly against a Premiership team that is in the habit of losing. We would of course have to get by two other form teams in the league to even reach that stage. It is very much a very big 'if'. I would give whoever finishes 2nd a strong shout in going up though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS LEFT PEG Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 I don't think we will be promoted either. My comment was with regard to SD's table that showed us as being the form team in the league. If that continues we would give ourselves a fighting chance at succeeding in the playoffs. Particularly against a Premiership team that is in the habit of losing. We would of course have to get by two other form teams in the league to even reach that stage. It is very much a very big 'if'. I would give whoever finishes 2nd a strong shout in going up though. Yeh, at least it is a chance . The SPL teams only agreed to this strange play off format because they are very much in the driving seat , banking on the opposing team being tired and possibly carrying knocks/ disciplinary problems into the two games. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
palmy_cammy Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 They do have to play extra league games though JR. I'm just happy we've finally got a playoff, although I don't see what's wrong with the traditional 2nd vs 11th. I don't really think finishing 4th in a 10 team league really qualifies you for being in with a shout for promotion. I won't say no to the extra excitement and revenue a potential playoff will raise for us though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JRS LEFT PEG Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Agreed , it should be a straight second top v second bottom but this forthcoming play off has kept our season and others alive which would otherwise be dead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) For any given 2nd tier side in the play- offs the odds are clearly against, but the chances of more than one such side moving upwards are of course infinitely better this year than they've been for a generation. Barring a dip in form, it's now looking fairly likely that we might get Falkirk in such an initial contest. Getting above them would net us more prize money and allow us to face them at home in the second leg at the weekend. I'm trying not to get too presumptuous - we were far from impressive today and are equally far from secure in a play-off place. I do think it's worth looking upwards though. Edited March 22, 2014 by Monkey Tennis 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacWatt Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 In McIntyre we trust. Some of us had faith in the manager. We aimed for 4th as a realistic prospect for a newly promoted team. McIntyre has delivered. The tedious detractors should eat some humble pie. You know who you are. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 In McIntyre we trust. Some of us had faith in the manager. We aimed for 4th as a realistic prospect for a newly promoted team. McIntyre has delivered. The tedious detractors should eat some humble pie. You know who you are. Fourth was the least we should have hoped for, given the strength of our squad. Anything less would have represented abject failure. As Bobby Jones once said, you don't praise a man for not robbing a bank. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broony88 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 (edited) Didn't realise he had delivered fourth. Long way to go still although would be raging if we throw it away now. Edited March 22, 2014 by Broony88 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waldorf1 Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 McIntyre detractor #1 here Firstly delighted to win ugly and get 3 points today and cheered players in way out for it 1. We haven't got 4th yet 2. At least 4 people round about me were moaning about the poor fare vs second bottom 3. Standard of finishing shows we need a goal scorer 4. Defence , McShane and Reilly were excellent today but rest were gutter 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Fourth was the least we should have hoped for, given the strength of our squad. Anything less would have represented abject failure. As Bobby Jones once said, you don't praise a man for not robbing a bank. Youre a hard man to please! I wonder if youre opinion would have been the same had Johnston still been manager and we were in the same position 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Youre a hard man to please! I wonder if youre opinion would have been the same had Johnston still been manager and we were in the same position Had Johnston still been manager, we'd be alongside Dundee and Hamilton. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Had Johnston still been manager, we'd be alongside Dundee and Hamilton. Pure conjecture. McIntyre has us as the form team through four months of the season. While Johnston may have started better with a more settled side, theres absolutely nothing to suggest he could have produced that kind of form over that long a period 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 McIntyre detractor #1 here Firstly delighted to win ugly and get 3 points today and cheered players in way out for it 1. We haven't got 4th yet 2. At least 4 people round about me were moaning about the poor fare vs second bottom 3. Standard of finishing shows we need a goal scorer 4. Defence , McShane and Reilly were excellent today but rest were gutter It wasnt the greatest of games, but we created chances and won the game. Perhaps some people need to lower their expectations. Pretty much every fan has been saying we need a goal scorer all season. Burns was nowhere near "gutter", neither were Lyle or Paton when they came on, although the players they replaced didnt have great games. Hardly unusual for a few players in the side to have off days, although with Russell it is become more and more concerning how often his "off days" are 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Pure conjecture. McIntyre has us as the form team through four months of the season. While Johnston may have started better with a more settled side, theres absolutely nothing to suggest he could have produced that kind of form over that long a period And rather less to suggest he couldn't. Of course it can only be conjecture. I don't even hold Johnston up as some genius who can do no wrong. Managing is an inexact science and certain elements, not all of which were his doing, conspired to enable his success last year. I've no doubt that the club's then circumstances meant that he benefited from a tail wind. The reality is however that by accident or design, he had a strong squad that was destined to also do well at this level, if allowed to. I honestly believe that our recent form should actually work against McIntyre in any assessment of his performance, rather than for him. His job's been easy and he's spent much of his tenure thus far, making an arse of it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 And rather less to suggest he couldn't. Of course it can only be conjecture. I don't even hold Johnston up as some genius who can do no wrong. Managing is an inexact science and certain elements, not all of which were his doing, conspired to enable his success last year. I've no doubt that the club's then circumstances meant that he benefited from a tail wind. The reality is however that by accident or design, he had a strong squad that was destined to also do well at this level, if allowed to. I honestly believe that our recent form should actually work against McIntyre in any assessment of his performance, rather than for him. His job's been easy and he's spent much of his tenure thus far, making an arse of it. Really? What evidence is that then? How is meeting expectations "making an arse of it"? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monkey Tennis Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Really? What evidence is that then? How is meeting expectations "making an arse of it"? Bizarre. My post doesn't mention "evidence". Expectations which in hindsight were unduly modest, have yet to be met. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homer Thompson Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Bizarre. My post doesn't mention "evidence". Expectations which in hindsight were unduly modest, have yet to be met. You know what I meant by evidence. So, we should wait until the end of the season to judge McIntyre? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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