jimbaxters Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, glensmad said: A crowd of over 700 for Larkhall Thistle v Rutherglen Glencairn today (normally about a quarter of that) suggests the Scottish Junior Cup is still held in the affection of many supporters. Course it is. Your club have taken a curious stance on it GM. From their perspective, why did they withdraw from it at first but decide to 're-enter this year? Edited February 12, 2023 by jimbaxters 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbaxters Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Shanner said: Not that I would wish either of them to win it but a Cumnock v Glens final would be a decent spectacle. Cumnock's to lose now...unfortunately. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted February 12, 2023 Author Share Posted February 12, 2023 7 hours ago, jimbaxters said: Course it is. Your club have taken a curious stance on it GM. From their perspective, why did they withdraw from it at first but decide to 're-enter this year? We felt at the time of the formation of the WoSFL that we had to fully commit to the new set-up, and having two governing bodies would cause confusion. We were also fully committed to the Scottish FA Licensing process. We were also facing the prospect of playing in a 20-team Premier Division and we just couldn't see where the Scottish Junior Cup would fit into that schedule. Now that we were successfully through the Licensing process, as a club we re-assessed things in the summer. Given that we were no longer eligible to play in the Strathclyde Cup and our league fixtures were now reducing from 38 games to 30 games, we felt there was room in the calendar for us to play in the Scottish Junior Cup again if they would have us back. The COO of the SJFA is a Rutherglen man, and he was more than delighted to welcome his home town team back into the tournament. We recognise it was a U-turn from us, but things develop over time in football, and relationships had healed over those two years that we stepped away from SJFA Membership. We remain fully committed to the WoSFL and the Scottish FA pyramid, but the Scottish Junior Cup is a nice bonus, and it was very obvious that our fans were pleased to see us return to the competition when we announced our intentions. 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Billy XBoswell Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 I was at the Larky v Rutherglen game yesterday & was a typical Cup game, well worth £7.00 entrance, with the underdogs the better team IMO Larky hitting the post twice & Rutherglen awarded as soft penalty in the first half, however experience proved to be the winner in this game Fair play to Larkhall (Jags) & I will be back to watch them again soon as a great we set up, it was good to have a chat (and a beer or two) with the committee afters Well done to all involved at this club 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 13 hours ago, wow-wee said: It's causing an imbalance in the league clubs that are licensed and playing in the junior cup are playing junior cup ties when those teams who dont play in the junior cup are playing league games and depending how far you go in either competition then that's more league games that should be getting played. But what we get you can still play these league games midweek to catch up therefore hindering other teams who are having to play midweek games when it's the fault of teams who want to play in a third party competition What you're describing isn't so much "stopping progress" as just causing a slight nuisance with league fixture scheduling. Talbot are out of this cup now but before that they had two very well attended matches against Darvel and Cumnock. Fans still love these matches and clubs obviously benefit with the gate money, etc this generates. What is so "anti-progress" about giving fans something they clearly want and tapping into a good revenue stream at the same time? Bottom line is that it makes sense to participate in this cup for as long as possible. Some clubs cut off their nose to spite their face on the issue and took what they thought was a progressive stand, some of those have realised that you could actually have the best of both worlds and come back into the tournament. I think the self proclaimed "progressives" need to get over themselves and recognise that this tournament still holds value despite being severely diminished. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenmachine Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Junior forum for this pish. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wow-wee Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 1 hour ago, glensmad said: We felt at the time of the formation of the WoSFL that we had to fully commit to the new set-up, and having two governing bodies would cause confusion. We were also fully committed to the Scottish FA Licensing process. We were also facing the prospect of playing in a 20-team Premier Division and we just couldn't see where the Scottish Junior Cup would fit into that schedule. Now that we were successfully through the Licensing process, as a club we re-assessed things in the summer. Given that we were no longer eligible to play in the Strathclyde Cup and our league fixtures were now reducing from 38 games to 30 games, we felt there was room in the calendar for us to play in the Scottish Junior Cup again if they would have us back. The COO of the SJFA is a Rutherglen man, and he was more than delighted to welcome his home town team back into the tournament. We recognise it was a U-turn from us, but things develop over time in football, and relationships had healed over those two years that we stepped away from SJFA Membership. We remain fully committed to the WoSFL and the Scottish FA pyramid, but the Scottish Junior Cup is a nice bonus, and it was very obvious that our fans were pleased to see us return to the competition when we announced our intentions. Judas ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marten Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Billy XBoswell said: I was at the Larky v Rutherglen game yesterday & was a typical Cup game, well worth £7.00 entrance, with the underdogs the better team IMO Larky hitting the post twice & Rutherglen awarded as soft penalty in the first half, however experience proved to be the winner in this game Fair play to Larkhall (Jags) & I will be back to watch them again soon as a great we set up, it was good to have a chat (and a beer or two) with the committee afters Well done to all involved at this club I was there as well and my experiences were pretty much the same. Great set-up there, I spoke to some very friendly people, excellent crowd and a good game. Well worth going! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 19 hours ago, wow-wee said: The two association's shouldn't meet the short sighted and greedy club's who want to play in every cup that's going is the problem the club's who are licensed should never be allowed to play in both therefore that would finish the for ever! Perhaps there is room for the Junior cup and the Strathclyde Cup to merge in some way? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginaro Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 12 hours ago, glensmad said: A crowd of over 700 for Larkhall Thistle v Rutherglen Glencairn today (normally about a quarter of that) suggests the Scottish Junior Cup is still held in the affection of many supporters. Undoubtedly true however it probably helped that no SPFL teams were playing nearby yesterday, and the two teams are half an hour apart. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 3 minutes ago, Ginaro said: Undoubtedly true however it probably helped that no SPFL teams were playing nearby yesterday, and the two teams are half an hour apart. And a Quarter-final tie. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duraglit shareholder Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 How do Cumnock seem to win the Junior Cup, after Talbot complete a treble in same tournament, they must be favourites now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Anyone know when the draw is meant to be? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andy25 Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 Tuesday 14th February. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairWeatherFan Posted February 12, 2023 Share Posted February 12, 2023 14 minutes ago, andy25 said: Tuesday 14th February. Taking the romance of the cup idea a little too far 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thejackdaw Posted February 13, 2023 Share Posted February 13, 2023 On 11/02/2023 at 23:13, glensmad said: A crowd of over 700 for Larkhall Thistle v Rutherglen Glencairn today (normally about a quarter of that) suggests the Scottish Junior Cup is still held in the affection of many supporters. Which tells its own story really of a crowd of 700 , yes we can all get nostalgic but quater finals of the Scottish cup used to fetch between 2,500 and 3,000 back in the day, 700 in today's terms is reasonably healthy however its not good at all and it kind of paints a picture regarding just how far our big famous trophy has fallen, the calibre of the last 8 tells it all if we are being honest . 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Chappy Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 I wonder if all the shouting about pish tournament and devalued cup would be getting shouted to the heavens if Auchinleck Kilbirnie and such hadn't been put out early in it JUST WONDERING 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shanner Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 6 minutes ago, Happy Chappy said: I wonder if all the shouting about pish tournament and devalued cup would be getting shouted to the heavens if Auchinleck Kilbirnie and such hadn't been put out early in it JUST WONDERING One guy above you is actually trying to (semi coherently) argue that 700 isn't an excellent crowd for rutherglen v larkhall. Folk struggle badly to be objective because they've dug themselves into an extreme and absolute position on the subject of grades and pyramids. They have the odd valid point but mostly It's like arguing with daft weans who will argue that black is white rather than re-evaluate their position objectively from time to time. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glensmad Posted February 14, 2023 Author Share Posted February 14, 2023 I've actually read somewhere that the crowd at Larkhall v Glencairn was in excess of 900, which wouldn't surprise me as the covered enclosure was packed and it was pretty busy on the open side and behind the turnstiles end goal. I didn't see the official attendance as I wasn't involved in the financials of the game, I leave that to our financial people. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted February 14, 2023 Share Posted February 14, 2023 14 hours ago, Thejackdaw said: ...the calibre of the last 8 tells it all if we are being honest . Would be interesting to see how many fans East Craigie would attract to an SJC final. Could still be Cumnock vs Glenafton though... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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