Iain Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Still think Humza needs to sharpen up a bit to be taken seriously as a leader. Good debate performances would help. Possibly a new suit and a haircut as well. Can't get complacent. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bodie said: The comeback is on. Baffled the entire political discourse has devolved to gender issues What about the economy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iain Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 11 minutes ago, Binos said: Baffled the entire political discourse has devolved to gender issues What about the economy You only get to discuss the issues if you meet the threshold of being a reasonable person who doesn't think they're entitled to things that others aren't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 14 hours ago, Gaz said: Let me rephrase that. There isn’t *enough* genuine appetite for independence. Nowhere near enough to win a referendum. There is nothing at all contentious here. There isn't enough support for independence and the past two days have made it worse. The hounding of Forbes will have shown 'the floating voter' the kind of intolerant, partisan, authoritarian hellhole iScot would be if a Yes vote was won so support will have dropped further. I see the well-respected Indian Council of Scotland is at least trying to bring some sanity by highlighting their concerns about Humza: That's in sharp contrast to an SNP staffer who wants Forbes suspended from the party for daring to call a double rapist a man: Edited February 22, 2023 by The_Kincardine 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AyrExile Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 42 minutes ago, alta-pete said: Humza’s getting the gig so the Murrells can continue to control from the shadows. Alongside keeping more of the bodies buried for longer. A useful patsy to absorb the fall out before stepping aside for one of the big hitters. The party machine has turned on Forbes and good to see groups like the indian and muslim council speak out against the chosen one 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyingscot Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 Actually quite in awe of how Sturgeon kept this together for so long. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DC92 Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Donathan said: If it’s someone from WM then my money would be on Black. They’d probably find an MSP with a safe seat who’s willing to go to Westminster, both resign and call a by-election, then swap seats. Aside from that being a really bad look, there's no time. Voting opens in 19 days and closes 2 weeks after that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 2 hours ago, Donathan said: Any word on who this mystery candidate is? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 12 minutes ago, Iain said: You only get to discuss the issues if you meet the threshold of being a reasonable person who doesn't think they're entitled to things that others aren't. Humza avoided the vote too, with urgent business. Threshold not met The other one is a supporter of forbes, threshold not met Well done There any many issues that require debate as in any country, not just one 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 13 minutes ago, Binos said: Baffled the entire political discourse has devolved to gender issues It's because no one is ready to draw a line in the sand over it yet. ScotGov is refusing to take the Section 35 loss and wants to embark on a (highly likely) futile Supreme Court bid. The opposition within the party and the wider movement (Cherry/Wings)are utterly obsessed with it and for the media it's like shooting fish in a barrel, keeping a laser focus on this is an opportunity to expose the fault lines in the party with the added bonus of some dog whistling transphobia thrown in. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Genuine Hibs Fan Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) Not a comment on the suitability of otherwise of Humza Yousaf but the first paragraph of this is utterly deranged (couldn't crop any further). Very disappointing to see organisations like this following the Board of Deputies game plan. Edited February 22, 2023 by Genuine Hibs Fan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Binos said: Humza avoided the vote too, with urgent business. Threshold not met The other one is a supporter of forbes, threshold not met Well done There any many issues that require debate as in any country, not just one Yousaf voted for it in the earlier stages of the bill, and has - publicly at least - backed it every step if the way. The leadership election is now three days in, wasn't it inevitable it would be dominated by Gender in the early running given that those would be the first questions Forbes would be asked, and her less than progressive answers? Edited February 22, 2023 by renton 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I suppose you could discount this simply on account of him being an apparent Clyde fan… 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jives Miguel Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 25 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: There is nothing at all contentious here. There isn't enough support for independence and the past two days have made it worse. The hounding of Forbes will have shown 'the floating voter' the kind of intolerant, partisan, authoritarian hellhole iScot would be if a Yes vote was won so support will have dropped further. I see the well-respected Indian Council of Scotland is at least trying to bring some sanity by highlighting their concerns about Humza: That's in sharp contrast to an SNP staffer who wants Forbes suspended from the party for daring to call a double rapist a man: Scotland should become a less "intolerant, partisan, authoritarian hellhole" by electing a first minister that believes that.. *clears throat, pushes glasses up nose* ahem.. gay people shouldn't marry and that transgender people shouldn't exist? 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 The Kashmir War- Bearsden Front. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 No right minded person would support a self-proclaimed racist or self-proclaimed misogynist for any elected office let alone that of First Minister. Equally we should not be supporting a self-proclaimed homophobe. And to preempt some possible responses, a homophobe is someone who does not think gay people should have the same rights as straight people and Forbes has made clear that this is her position. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 43 minutes ago, The_Kincardine said: There is nothing at all contentious here. There isn't enough support for independence and the past two days have made it worse. The hounding of Forbes will have shown 'the floating voter' the kind of intolerant, partisan, authoritarian hellhole iScot would be if a Yes vote was won so support will have dropped further. I see the well-respected Indian Council of Scotland is at least trying to bring some sanity by highlighting their concerns about Humza: Respect Kinky, branching out into multicultural sectarianism, quite the inclusionary! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Binos Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 (edited) So you are allowed to have a religion in this country but only if you do not express it's views publicly Edited February 22, 2023 by Binos -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheese Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 I fully back the Indian Council's decision on Humza Yousef. Understandable that they wouldn't want to associate with divisive, sectarian politicians. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted February 22, 2023 Share Posted February 22, 2023 5 minutes ago, Binos said: So you are allowed to have a religion in this country but only if you do not express it's views publicly You can express them all you like, you're just not likely to get elected as leader of a modern progressive party if you wish it wasn't. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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