Nicola Sturgeon Arrested, Peter Murrell Charged

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

Just now, strichener said:

I have already.  Support #ScotRef

Not #SNP

And legally what are the ramifications of those words?

[welshbairn]

I don't think I would have been too upset if I'd donated to the fund and they blew it on the 2019 GE campaign, given the result. No idea what the legal framework of this was, but as usual, the major legal jeopardy likely concerns a cover up rather than the allocation of funds, unless the allegations involve actual theft or breaking electoral spending rules.

[Granny Danger]

Has there been any statement from Police Scotland as to the criminal offence they believe has been committed.

[Leith Green]

I suppose the bonus for Murrell and Sturgeon is that - what with the weather looking good for the weekend, there is already a nice gazebo in the back garden for a ferw glasses of bubbly?

[DeeTillEhDeh]

1 minute ago, Leith Green said:

I suppose the bonus for Murrell and Sturgeon is that - what with the weather looking good for the weekend, there is already a nice gazebo in the back garden for a ferw glasses of bubbly?

And someone's done the spring digging for them.

[Jim McLean's Ghost]

4 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I don't think I would have been too upset if I'd donated to the fund and they blew it on the 2019 GE campaign, given the result. No idea what the legal framework of this was, but as usual, the major legal jeopardy likely concerns a cover up rather than the allocation of funds, unless the allegations involve actual theft or breaking electoral spending rules.

but there hasn't been a cover up has there? The SNP published the accounts and they were ratified at conference which is how people knew the bulk of the money had been spent 18 months ago

[Monkey Tennis]

5 hours ago, Elixir said:

 

Moving abroad has never looked so appealing, imo.

Agreed.

When are you going?

[Scary Bear]

18 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I don't think I would have been too upset if I'd donated to the fund and they blew it on the 2019 GE campaign, given the result. No idea what the legal framework of this was, but as usual, the major legal jeopardy likely concerns a cover up rather than the allocation of funds, unless the allegations involve actual theft or breaking electoral spending rules.

Maybe they built a sex dungeon with the money? The polis must be digging for something. She puts the lotion in the basket.

[invergowrie arab]

37 minutes ago, strichener said:

In their accounts that the have to lodge with the Electoral commission.  They used to have restricted and unrestricted funds listed separately.

Ringfenced and restricted funds are completely different terms.

[Billy Jean King]

Shares in Butterkist just fell 30% 

[Thorongil]

32 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

I don't think I would have been too upset if I'd donated to the fund and they blew it on the 2019 GE campaign, given the result. No idea what the legal framework of this was, but as usual, the major legal jeopardy likely concerns a cover up rather than the allocation of funds, unless the allegations involve actual theft or breaking electoral spending rules.

The real question is what has happened to the £30m of membership fees that came in between 2014 and 2019.
 

For an organisation with as few employees and overheads as the SNP that’s quite the windfall when their membership rose from 25000 to 125,000. 

Employee Headcount didn’t increase. MPs, MSPs their staff and cooncilors get their pay elsewhere. 
 

so where did the £30m windfall go?

[Granny Danger]

15 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

Ringfenced and restricted funds are completely different terms.

[welshbairn]

21 minutes ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

but there hasn't been a cover up has there? The SNP published the accounts and they were ratified at conference which is how people knew the bulk of the money had been spent 18 months ago

Aye, but why did Douglas Chapman feel he had resign as SNP Treasurer, claiming he couldn't do his job as he was refused access to the books? Don't know much about him but I don't get the impression he's a mad Cherryite.

[Tony Ferrino]

1 hour ago, George Cowley said:

Go and somebody cleverer than me re-photoshop the caption on the bottom of this…

 

1. You've included everyone.

2. We've all got better things to do.

[lichtgilphead]

7 minutes ago, Thorongil said:

The real question is what has happened to the £30m of membership fees that came in between 2014 and 2019.
 

For an organisation with as few employees and overheads as the SNP that’s quite the windfall when their membership rose from 25000 to 125,000. 

Employee Headcount didn’t increase. MPs, MSPs their staff and cooncilors get their pay elsewhere. 
 

so where did the £30m windfall go?

How do you get £30m?

£1 a month is the minimum subscription. 125000 x 12 only equals  £1.5m per year, and 125000 was the highest membership figure in any of these years

[itzdrk]

1 hour ago, Jim McLean's Ghost said:

What does it state on the website. Maybe you should post that.

Since everyone is just dancing around it this is what it says.  No comment from me either way just the info. 

[Thorongil]

18 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

How do you get £30m?

£1 a month is the minimum subscription. 125000 x 12 only equals  £1.5m per year, and 125000 was the highest membership figure in any of these years

Membership was £5 per month.

£5 x 125,000 per month is £7.5m per year.

[itzdrk]

National hinting he may have sold the stone of destiny. 

[itzdrk]

Just now, Thorongil said:

Membership was £5 per month.

£5 x 125,000 per month is £7.5m per year.

My membership was £1 a month and quite frankly you are a mug if you paid more. 

[Thorongil]

1 minute ago, itzdrk said:

My membership was £1 a month and quite frankly you are a mug if you paid more. 

Still millions missing from the massive increase in members. Very few paid as little as £1.