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49 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said:

For those unfamiliar:

A runaway trolley is heading down the tracks toward five workers who will all be killed if the trolley proceeds on its present course. Adam sees a fat guy sitting on a wall beside the track that can stop/derail the trolley. The only way to save the lives of the five workers is to push the fat guy onto the track in the knowledge that it'll kill him.

Should Adam push the guy off the wall, killing the one guy but saving the other five?

I’m assuming in this scenario Adam has a mobile phone in which case he would likely do nothing other than film and post the outcome on one or more of his social media platforms? That seems like the modern answer to this scenario.

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Adam should send five trained eagles to swoop in and pluck the five workers from their perilous predicament. He should also provide advice on improving diet and portion control to the plump fellow, not that it's any of his business, the judgemental arse that he is.

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16 minutes ago, welshbairn said:

More to the point, where do they stand on the gender reform issue?

 

3 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said:

Fine...

The fat guy is called Pete, aged 42.  He lives in Queensferry but works at Nationwide in Dunfermline, one of the few to do the reverse commute.  He lets the location of the MotoGP determine his holiday location. He has no kids, but has a cat.

Person 1 is Neil, aged 38.  He's an electrician from Kirkliston, and listens to Metallica most days.  He supports Hibs, but attends two games a season on average.

Person 2 is Carly.  She's shagging Neil and is just hanging around him like a lost puppy.  In her spare time he paints beach pebbles and sells them on Etsy.

Person 3 is Doug, aged 17.  He's working on an apprenticeship with Network Rail.  He doesn't care about football and has two illegitimate kids.  He refuses to say Mac 'n' Cheese.

Person 4 is Gary, aged 65 and a grandfather to five.  He's the manager and talks about nothing other than looking forward to retirement.

Person 5 is Leonard.  Nobody knows anything about him. He's that worker that gets paid to just stand about watching the others do stuff.

Seem fairly liberal, with pronouns at least. 

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9 minutes ago, coprolite said:

Murder vs being an innocent bystander. 

The only way that Adam would possibly know that the only way to prevent fatalities was pushing fatty is after the fact. He'd have been shouting at them to get out the way until they got squashed. 

Only a psychopath would push the guy and they'd probably be quite curious as to what 5 people getting hit by a trolley looks like and not want to stop it. 

What about the original version where Adam has a switch that he can leave alone to allow certain death for five, or flick it so just one dies?

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Just now, welshbairn said:

What about the original version where Adam has a switch that he can leave alone to allow certain death for five, or flick it so just one dies?

It removes the disincentive provided by having to try to shift a fat man from a wall, which could be a minimum of hard work but potentially dangerous if fatty fights back, but it's a similar dilemma. 

I guess in that version he has the chance to warn fatty instead, so it wouldn't be certain death of 1 vs likely death of 5, but likely vs likely. 

If the points would otherwise be set at random but he can choose, then he should obviously choose fatty, much to the delight of the covid thread brigade. 

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22 minutes ago, Hedgecutter said:

Fine...

The fat guy is called Pete, aged 42.  He lives in Queensferry but works at Nationwide in Dunfermline, one of the few to do the reverse commute.  He lets the location of the MotoGP determine his holiday location. He has no kids, but has a cat.

Person 1 is Neil, aged 38.  He's an electrician from Kirkliston, and listens to Metallica most days.  He supports Hibs, but attends two games a season on average.

Person 2 is Carly.  She's shagging Neil and is just hanging around him like a lost puppy.  In her spare time he paints beach pebbles and sells them on Etsy.

Person 3 is Doug, aged 17.  He's working on an apprenticeship with Network Rail.  He doesn't care about football and has two illegitimate kids.  He refuses to say Mac 'n' Cheese.

Person 4 is Gary, aged 65 and a grandfather to five.  He's the manager and talks about nothing other than looking forward to retirement.

Person 5 is Leonard.  Nobody knows anything about him. He's that worker that gets paid to just stand about watching the others do stuff.

Is there any guaranteed way of killing them all? 

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36 minutes ago, Dan Steele said:

The thread title shows what looks like a shopping trolley. Would that even fit the tracks? Would it kill or just leave a nasty bruise? Adam could probably just kick the trolley over.

 

Aye that's what I was thinking and would it even go in the right direction with its dodgy wheels.

 

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14 minutes ago, RuMoore said:

How fucking big is Adam?!

5' 11" and on average 14.2 stone.  Easter chocolate has seen an increase to to 14.5 though.  He aims to get down to 13 something by the summer.

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1 hour ago, Dan Steele said:

The thread title shows what looks like a shopping trolley. Would that even fit the tracks? Would it kill or just leave a nasty bruise? Adam could probably just kick the trolley over.

If its a shopping trolley then everything should turn out for the best as the trolley would derail itself naturally and launch itself into the nearby river and live half submerged for the next five years until the river floods and then finds its new home in a nearby public park where it brings hours of joy to children and neds.

.........Fat bloke still gets pushed off the wall.

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2 hours ago, Hedgecutter said:

For those unfamiliar:

A runaway trolley is heading down the tracks toward five workers who will all be killed if the trolley proceeds on its present course. Adam sees a fat guy sitting on a wall beside the track that can stop/derail the trolley. The only way to save the lives of the five workers is to push the fat guy onto the track in the knowledge that it'll kill him.

Should Adam push the guy off the wall, killing the one guy but saving the other five?

Who the f**k stands on a railway track and doesn't keep look out, 5 Darwin awards.

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26 minutes ago, approximately dave said:

If its a shopping trolley then everything should turn out for the best as the trolley would derail itself naturally and launch itself into the nearby river and live half submerged for the next five years until the river floods and then finds its new home in a nearby public park where it brings hours of joy to children and neds.

.........Fat bloke still gets pushed off the wall.

Unless it's that bloody Tesco trolley in the new ad. It would jump the tracks and go for help.

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1 hour ago, Hedgecutter said:

Fine...

The fat guy is called Pete, aged 42.  He lives in Queensferry but works at Nationwide in Dunfermline, one of the few to do the reverse commute.  He lets the location of the MotoGP determine his holiday location. He has no kids, but has a cat.

Sounds a lot like that guy who posts pictures of himself in his tight motorbike gear on here.

Still the same answer for me, call him Turboshandy or let people see his posts on here. The court would understand.

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