LongTimeLurker Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) Think if all the clubs consulting fans do what's anticipated on that basis, there are now 53 likely NO votes declared once 7 extra clubs that have told the P&J they are against are factored in. There are some cast iron certain NO votes still undeclared from the LL like Bo'ness United so looking very good given at least 5 of the FAs with votes are dominated by nonleague pyramid clubs. Key is to not just win this but having a big majority for NO so the SFA board take a telling and don't keep trying again. Edited June 5, 2023 by LongTimeLurker 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 St Mirren now confirmed as good guys: https://twitter.com/saintmirrenfc/status/1665684506811019264 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buckets Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 St Mirren confirmed as a no vote. Surely won't go through now, but hopefully we see a huge number of clubs voting no. I'm not calling for boycotts or abuse but any lower league club that does vote yes should be asked why they did. A slight disappointment for me is that in most of the statements declaring a no vote, the main point is that its not the best answer for youth development and B teams. I would like to see some more clubs coming out and saying the reason is that it unfairly disadvantages huge numbers of clubs in tier 5 and below who clearly don't want it and would discourage growth and investment at that level. Youth development is important but so is actual grassroots football that we are told also matters to big SPFL clubs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 hours ago, welshbairn said: https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/fp/sport/football/highland-league/5791756/survey-reveals-north-clubs-conference-league/ Riddles on FitbaNorth has kindly put together a breakdown, which I've nicked. Confirmed AGAINST the Conference proposal: Brora Rangers Buckie Thistle Clachnacuddin Cove Rangers Deveronvale Forres Mechanics Huntly Keith Lossiemouth Nairn County Peterhead Ross County Rothes Strathspey Thistle Turriff United Wick Academy Undeclared - Ten clubs - with 6 voting AGAINST, 1 abstention, 2 FOR and 1 no-reply: Aberdeen Banks o' Dee Brechin City Elgin City Formartine United Fort William Fraserburgh Golspie Sutherland Inverness Caley Thistle Inverurie Loco Works riddles Senior Member (ITFC) Posts: 4180 Joined: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:34 pm Location: Inverness Club: Inverness Thistle (RIP) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) Ross County are not on the No to B teams tracker as a confirmed NO hence 6 rather than 7 extras. Edit: They are now Edited June 5, 2023 by LongTimeLurker 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Inverness, Brechin, Elgin and Aberdeen seem the most likely yes voters out of that lot. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Posts on the Brechin City thread seem to hint they are now a NO. We'll find out later today what their official position is apparently. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) Bad news and a potential embarrassment for Dundee United fans is that Mark Ogren, while stating he'll give consideration to the views of the support, intends to make a decision by himself on how to vote. Considering how well that his choices have gone this season, I'm preparing to hide. Edited June 5, 2023 by Dundee Hibernian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lithgierose Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 9 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Inverness, Brechin, Elgin and Aberdeen seem the most likely yes voters out of that lot. Aberdeen knocked back the invite. Keeping options open for a later date ? -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongTimeLurker Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Stranraer are good guys: https://twitter.com/StranraerFC/status/1665694678904184832 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 3 minutes ago, lithgierose said: Aberdeen knocked back the invite. Keeping options open for a later date ? Not taking part doesn't mean they'll vote against it. They might think it's a good idea, but just not for them. Burrows was a big B team advocate when he was at Motherwell. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 Aberdeen’s rejection of the invite seemed more about them not wanting to pile money into a B team rather than any strong objection as a matter of principle. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 minute ago, eez-eh said: Aberdeen’s rejection of the invite seemed more about them not wanting to pile money into a B team rather than any strong objection as a matter of principle. They also expressed some solidarity with their Highland League brothers, who knows though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 45 minutes ago, craigkillie said: Inverness, Brechin, Elgin and Aberdeen seem the most likely yes voters out of that lot. Elgin, Banks o' Dee and Fort William have ancient and/or more recent grudges with the Highland League. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
morrison Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 1 hour ago, LongTimeLurker said: Ross County are not on the No to B teams tracker as a confirmed NO hence 6 rather than 7 extras. Edit: They are now When did County declare? Missed that, but relieved if true. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdinburghBlue Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, LongTimeLurker said: Stranraer are good guys: https://twitter.com/StranraerFC/status/1665694678904184832 Pleased, but surprised based on what I’d picked up a few weeks back on perceived benefits compared to the LL. Perhaps they didn’t want the ignominy of being the only SPFL supporters other than Celtic and Rangers*. Now time to reform the tiers 4 & 5 structure to address the concerns that were initially pushing Stranraer (and others) towards ‘yes.’ Edited June 5, 2023 by EdinburghBlue 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GNU_Linux Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CambieBud Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 (edited) Livingston now a confirmed No. St Mirren and Motherwell also. Thankfully fan pressure has swayed this towards the good guys. When it is rejected Maxwell’s position must be untenable surely Edited June 5, 2023 by CambieBud 7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pyramid Watcher Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 7 minutes ago, CambieBud said: Livingston now a confirmed No. St Mirren and Motherwell also. Thankfully fan pressure has swayed this towards the good guys. When it is rejected Maxwell’s position must be untenable surely I’m not sure he gives enough of a toss to be worried about it. What I will say is that the incoming president has lost his first meaningful vote on his first first day in charge, not a great look. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PastyMan Posted June 5, 2023 Share Posted June 5, 2023 12 minutes ago, Pyramid Watcher said: I’m not sure he gives enough of a toss to be worried about it. What I will say is that the incoming president has lost his first meaningful vote on his first first day in charge, not a great look. Is there much of a precedent for a SFA Board backed resolution which they argued as fundamental to the structure of the domestic game and the future of the International game being rejected by the membership due to its ineptness in form, structure and presentation? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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