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Of he goes we need to go for a foreign coach someone who can organise and motivate a decent hard working team (which we have) and take us forward. 

The issue is the people who will make the appointment also need emptied 

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12 minutes ago, RedLichtie86 said:

Georgia beating Portugal 2-0 just now.

Yet we cant muster up a single shot at goal v Hungary.

No no. You see, Portugal are fielding an under strength team in a "weak" group. Georgia's determination to win is irrelevant. So you must not criticise Clarke on this basis.

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Not only are Hungary looking likely to progress - but much of the defence mounted after Sunday wilts in light of Austria's group win... Slovenia, Slovakia and Georgia advancing... even Albania's pluck...

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2 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

Not only are Hungary looking likely to progress - but much of the defence mounted after Sunday wilts in light of Austria's group win... Slovenia, Slovakia and Georgia advancing... even Albania's pluck...

The results in the last couple of days make it all the more humiliating in that they confirm that we just didn't bother to show up. John McGinn can take his prat show dancing banter when he arrived at the camp and shove it up his voluminous arse.

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3 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

Not only are Hungary looking likely to progress - but much of the defence mounted after Sunday wilts in light of Austria's group win... Slovenia, Slovakia and Georgia advancing... even Albania's pluck...

“Something, something, something, comparative population sizes. Something, something, something superior domestic league”

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For me why he should go is pretty simple.

He failed to adapt to the hand that we dealt. We played at times in the 1st 2 games that we still had Dykes starting up front and Hickey on the right rather than adapting. He and his coaching staff had plenty of time to look at the strengths of the players that were replacing the previously mentioned players and make it work. He showed he learned nothing from the previous Euro's and his attitude towards those that dare question him are negatives as well. His final xenophobic press conference was the icing on the cake. 

I didn't want Clarke at the beginning but he grew on me and had felt pre-tournament that he should continue in the role regardless if we qualified, but given the above I have now changed and feel we should look for someone new and from outside Scottish Football. 

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9 minutes ago, Pocketman said:

what have I missed?? 

Russia is not happy about western influence, and is leaning on the Georgian government to tell Georgians to behave themselves. Protests ensue. Easy enough to look up the details.

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Already been said, but just to add my tuppenceworth, I hope Clarke and the entire playing squad are watching this Georgia performance tonight and are feeling ashamed of themselves.

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I hope the baldy fraud is watching the rest of this tournament. 26 year wait and he shat it. 

Slovenia, Austria and Georgia showing what happens when you play with some balls

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It's hard as a human not to like a "told you so" win. 

As said above Georgia, Slovenia, Slovakia and more through really hits home our & clarkes failure. 

I'd also fling Austria in there as an example of what hiring a really good manager can do. They looked poor pre Ragnick & we done OK v them. Arguably best team in qualifying without their star man.

People need to get out their mind how long it took to qualify. It's crazy how much that's clouding folks opinion. It's irrelevant to now. Wake up. 

 

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Everyone who wants Clarke to stay on - serious question, what are you expecting to happen? Can you just provide the future scenario you see panning out? I am genuinly intrigued. The best arguement I have heard so far is that the SFA will likely hire someone worse - is there something else I am missing?

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Pre tournament I was in the camp that Clarke stays unless it’s a total catastrophe. Unfortunately, it was a catastrophe of even worse proportions than could have been reasonably expected. 

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1 hour ago, immcinto said:

Everyone who wants Clarke to stay on - serious question, what are you expecting to happen? Can you just provide the future scenario you see panning out? I am genuinly intrigued. The best arguement I have heard so far is that the SFA will likely hire someone worse - is there something else I am missing?

That's pretty undeniable, although it shouldn't be a reason for keeping any incumbent manager on its own. If Sir Steve dropped dead tomorrow, I wonder who they'd appoint; Malky's got a "job" at Hibs to tide him over, so we're surely safe from that for now. Time for Scotland Gemmill?

I've a feeling that the Nations League isn't going to go well and there'll be an agreement to part ways. We start with the home match against Poland, which is likely to be our easiest game by a fair bit, so lose that and it's a real uphill task. I don't know what he can do to get things back on the rails by September, but I can't help but think we'll be playing the same again and hoping it all works out somehow.

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The SFA could appoint Guardiola or Klopp and we'd not see an improvement.

Don't recall SAF winning more than a point at the 86 world cup.

If and when Steve Clarke goes, and after the inevitable 18 years of failure to qualify for a tournament, I hope the people who are in the "Steve Clarke camp" look back on this period of back to back Euro qualification and wished that they appreciated it a wee bit more.

Sorry to tell people but it's not going to get better than this.

Scottish football is filled with selfish, self serving clubs who cling to survival rather than wanting to thrive.

Clubs so bad that they annually get beat by Estonian, Icelandic, etc, teams as they hysterically attempt to qualify for European club competitions.

Two clubs who rule the roost and don't care a jot about Scotland. 10 other top tier clubs who view playing the aforementioned two clubs four times a season more important than growth and progression.

Time to accept reality. It ain't gonna got better than this unless Scottish football undergoes a major overhaul.

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