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6 minutes ago, Aim Here said:

Weirdly, in the news today, Elon Musk has just signed up to take a kicking in a cage, though from a decidedly non-heavyweight Mark Zuckerberg. I'm all for this new trend of billionaires being locked in confined spaces doing very risky things.

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This guys waiting in the wings to kick f**k out the winner.

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2 hours ago, Aim Here said:

 

Dead, of course.

Nobody's going to say 'alive' at this juncture. More interesting is when/how they died. My guess is that it was a catastrophic pressurization failure on Sunday morning, because the CEO's insistence that details like having a porthole that can withstand the depths you're diving to, and laws against killing your paying passengers (the rich dudes paying have to be classified as 'mission specialists' to get round this) are an unreasonable block on free market innovation, and these rich idiots were turned into instant mush within milliseconds).

Otherwise, it's a power failure and either they've been bobbing about the North Atlantic in a sealed baked bean tin for the better part of a week without getting spotted (the multiple redundant safety features were almost all designed to refloat the submarine fast, so it would be fairly amusing if this part of the operation was a riproaring success and then the CEO forgot step 2: what to do once you've managed to float yourself).

It's highly unlikely they're trapped underwater, given the ocean is mostly made of water and this sub defaults to floating in about seven different ways, so there should be nothing stopping this thing getting to the surface. The only plausible scenario I can think of is that these guys were being naughty and were (illegally) inside the wreck of the Titanic when the power ran out, and they trapped themselves by getting stuck on the roof of the wreck in a sub that can't do anything except float. This one's also quite funny.

Barring a miracle, these guys are already dead.

*SRS* Deadpool competitor (grand master) gets to engage his theories with the news. Love it! 😘

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Interesting to think that if they had actually been intact on the seabed there'd now be a race against the clock to cut them free as the air dwindled: quite impressive to have found the location within only days of them disappearing.

If anybody starts this kind of enterprise up again in the decades to come, then proper certification of their craft will clearly be a requisite (though note that French expert who'd already been down 3 dozen times obviously felt it was safe)... but a 'Plan B' surely also needs to be in place beforehand. Basically their only solution to losing communication was calling out a voluntary search party drawn from round the entire planet.

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1 minute ago, HibeeJibee said:

Interesting to think that if they had actually been intact on the seabed there'd now be a race against the clock to cut them free as the air dwindled: quite impressive to have found the location within only days of them disappearing.

If anybody starts this kind of enterprise up again in the decades to come, then proper certification of their craft will clearly be a requisite (though note that French expert who'd already been down 3 dozen times obviously felt it was safe)... but a 'Plan B' surely also needs to be in place beforehand. Basically their only solution to losing communication was calling out a voluntary search party drawn from round the entire planet.

It baffles me that it wasn't  tethered with an umbilical

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1 hour ago, pozbaird said:

Fcuk. I’ve had a ‘mare. Of course it was. As I was typing, in my brain, I thought Apollo 13 was a Spielberg job. Of course it was Ron Howard.

Consider my brain well and truly scrambled today. I accept the scorn coming my way with good grace. 😎
 

 

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No scorn here, you could have said Walt Disney, and I wouldn't have disputed it...

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18 minutes ago, Bairnardo said:

It baffles me that it wasn't  tethered with an umbilical

A couple of loops around the Titanic, and there's a good chance you've inadvertantly, and unknowingly, anchored either your sub or your surface ship to the largest man-made object in the Atlantic Ocean, with all the safety hazards that implies. We're talking something like 4 miles worth of tether, and the guys at the business end are whizzing around a giant, jaggy piece of rusty metal with all sorts of pointy hooked bits for your 4-mile rope to snag and catch onto.

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24 minutes ago, HibeeJibee said:

Interesting to think that if they had actually been intact on the seabed there'd now be a race against the clock to cut them free as the air dwindled: quite impressive to have found the location within only days of them disappearing.

If anybody starts this kind of enterprise up again in the decades to come, then proper certification of their craft will clearly be a requisite (though note that French expert who'd already been down 3 dozen times obviously felt it was safe)... but a 'Plan B' surely also needs to be in place beforehand. Basically their only solution to losing communication was calling out a voluntary search party drawn from round the entire planet.

The ROVs found it almost as soon as they arrived, which was only today, the earlier ones weren't capable of that depth. Maybe the rule should be to have a depth capable ROV on standby whenever they drop a manned submersible to extreme depths.

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4 minutes ago, Aim Here said:

A couple of loops around the Titanic, and there's a good chance you've inadvertantly, and unknowingly, anchored either your sub or your surface ship to the largest man-made object in the Atlantic Ocean, with all the safety hazards that implies. We're talking something like 4 miles worth of tether, and the guys at the business end are whizzing around a giant, jaggy piece of rusty metal with all sorts of pointy hooked bits for your 4-mile rope to snag and catch onto.

Offshore ROVs manage to get right in about subsea templates/wellheads/pipework etc without a problem though. 

Staying a few metres clear of the dirty auld bits of metal to avoid snagging would be infinitely preferable to having just been pressurised into a human oxo cube

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Implosion is definitely best case scenario. I remember watching something about an implosion in a diving bell off an oil rig in the 80s due to human error that killed three workers and it was absolute carnage, but at least it was instant.

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It's the first time a carbon fibre and tubular chamber's been used and it wasn't properly tested. All the other extreme depth submersibles have been titanium and spherical. My uninformed guess is that repeated dives weakened the carbon fibre structure which probably wasn't stress tested since before the first dive.

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I’ve got Good news and bad news. The bad news is the sub has imploded and 5 billionaires have lost their lives, gutting I know. The good news is …. The titanic now has a new exhibit……you’re still thinking about the bad news

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