Mr.Blue Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Aye, that's a fair summary apart from the "in your face" bit. They aren't in your face, they're behind you kicking you after the ball's away or rolling around on the ground pretending to have been hit. I don't blame Morton, tbf. c***s are c***s. That's just their nature. Ref should be smarter though. That's the disappointing bit. Kicking after the balls away? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Well played Morton, how did Tyler get on? Thank you. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinperu Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mr.Blue said: Kicking after the balls away? A couple of times in the 1st half where your No.6 (Waters) has come up and kicked Cudjoe long after the ball is away. Not a mistimed challenge, just took a swipe at him 1-2s later. It looked almost like a planned tactic. ‘See what you can get away with, see if you can wind them up’. From this point of view, as a United fan, it felt like we had weak officials today who did nothing to snuff it out early. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted September 16, 2023 Author Share Posted September 16, 2023 48 minutes ago, Chippyminton said: Cry as many salty tears as you like, make as many disparaging comments as you like. The ref robbed you, Morton are thugs and hammer throwers, we're too physical, we're cheats, we're too in your face, Dougie's running a wrestling match instead of a fitba team, blah blah blah. It's water off a duck's back to us. We're used to it. I assume you’re “used to it” because other fans call you out on it because it’s true. ”We’re used to being called cheating c***s because we’re cheating c***s” is maybe not the high moral ground you think it is. That said it’s the officials who should take the criticism for letting you away with it. -5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scosha Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 27 minutes ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Well played Morton, how did Tyler get on? Thank you. Looked a wee bit shaky to begin with but settled well and made an excellent challenge late on to deny a goal scoring opportunity. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxinperu Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 For what it’s worth, I thought Morton had a decent amount of football in them today. Far from the worst we’ve come up against so far this season. Even at 11v11 we were definitely in a game. What frustrated me from a United perspective is that there also seems to be a nasty side to Morton - antagonistic late kicks, and A LOT of contact on our centre forward and during set pieces. When we don’t get decisions from officials, we struggle to find a way to give back in the same way. It’s this lack of ability to adjust and match other teams that frustrates, and we just end up feeling persecuted about bad officiating. I know Utd fans are frustrated about not doing enough 2nd half, but once it goes to 10 v 11, then a lot of normal planning goes out the window, and holding on for a draw probably becomes the more realistic prospect. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gmfc 23 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 57 minutes ago, Pull My Strings said: Aye, that's a fair summary apart from the "in your face" bit. They aren't in your face, they're behind you kicking you after the ball's away or rolling around on the ground pretending to have been hit. I don't blame Morton, tbf. c***s are c***s. That's just their nature. Ref should be smarter though. That's the disappointing bit. Birthday caird pish. Girfry 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippyminton Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 1 hour ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said: Well played Morton, how did Tyler get on? Thank you. Checked in on your forum. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 1 hour ago, foxinperu said: A couple of times in the 1st half where your No.6 (Waters) has come up and kicked Cudjoe long after the ball is away. Not a mistimed challenge, just took a swipe at him 1-2s later. It looked almost like a planned tactic. ‘See what you can get away with, see if you can wind them up’. From this point of view, as a United fan, it felt like we had weak officials today who did nothing to snuff it out early. I imagine it probably was their tactic. We have a budget significantly bigger than Morton's, and although I'm not suggesting Morton are a bunch of cloggers, they have to find a way to make it more of an even keel. No issues with that from me. But a stronger ref would have stepped in and shown a yellow or two. As I've said elsewhere, he lost control at one stage - who was he might I ask (when Utd sold match programmes I would know who the ref was every game) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr.Blue Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Folk talking about the referee being stronger. He was certainly fucking strong when we played raith as starks. Gave multiple bookings and 2 penalties against us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippyminton Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 59 minutes ago, Granny Danger said: I assume you’re “used to it” because other fans call you out on it because it’s true. ”We’re used to being called cheating c***s because we’re cheating c***s” is maybe not the high moral ground you think it is. That said it’s the officials who should take the criticism for letting you away with it. Aye? It's only September FFS. Still way too early for snowflakes, even in the far-North Dundee. You were held to a draw at home. Take it on the chin, and move on. Best wishes from Greenock. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 On 09/09/2023 at 21:35, virginton said: No, you should definitely not expect that at all. We may have been involved in some open games so far, but a lot of that was based on circumstances like chasing the game when behind. At Tannadice the gameplan will absolutely be hard-working defensive shitfesting. No idea why - fully one week later - this has come as a shock to Dundee United fans then. An unexpected and much needed point to stop the rot, and we will in all probability strengthen week by week from this point in the season, just as we did 12 months ago after a ropey start. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chippyminton Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 1 hour ago, foxinperu said: For what it’s worth, I thought Morton had a decent amount of football in them today. Far from the worst we’ve come up against so far this season. Even at 11v11 we were definitely in a game. What frustrated me from a United perspective is that there also seems to be a nasty side to Morton - antagonistic late kicks, and A LOT of contact on our centre forward and during set pieces. When we don’t get decisions from officials, we struggle to find a way to give back in the same way. It’s this lack of ability to adjust and match other teams that frustrates, and we just end up feeling persecuted about bad officiating. I know Utd fans are frustrated about not doing enough 2nd half, but once it goes to 10 v 11, then a lot of normal planning goes out the window, and holding on for a draw probably becomes the more realistic prospect. All of the above comes across as fair comment from a knowledgable supporter of the game, so fair play to you. But we're not 'nasty' - we just play to the strengths instilled into us by a manager who's working with a tiny budget, but who has somehow managed to motivate all of his previously-underperforming players to give of their very, very best. The physicality we demonstrate isn't clodhopping, hammer-throwing thuggery - it's a strength which we've discovered as a means of intimidating our opponents and achieving an advantage - and that's how games are won or lost. Yep - it's often not pretty, but the officials are there to officiate and it's 100% their call when a player oversteps the mark. FWIW - it wasn't a Morton player red-carded today - it was a dayglo. Welcome to the Championship. We're brutes. Not ballerinas. Best wishes from Greenock. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dundee Hibernian Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 39 minutes ago, Steven W said: he lost control at one stage - who was he might I ask He could be any number of slovens that inhabit the SFA diary, but we've had him already this season at Grangemouth v Falkirk. The officials probably aren't the reason United will have hard days this season. It's more down to Goodwin persisting with a particular system to accommodate higher earners. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steven W Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 20 minutes ago, Dundee Hibernian said: He could be any number of slovens that inhabit the SFA diary, but we've had him already this season at Grangemouth v Falkirk. The officials probably aren't the reason United will have hard days this season. It's more down to Goodwin persisting with a particular system to accommodate higher earners. Watt and Middleton certainly not earning their keep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArabianKnight Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Can't really talk about "bias" it's about consistency, fairness and professionalism. None of the referees in this country have any acceptable levels in either of those qualities in the top leagues. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Liam899 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Morton are very very physical, I actually enjoyed watching them last season. They also play as well. Imrie certainly gets his players giving everything. Glad French played, he’ll get better after being out for so long. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludo*1 Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 Yep, hate Imrie. Hate Morten. Liked their style last season under Imrie. Exactly like he was as a player - in your face, arrogant with no reason to be, dirty b*****ds but also a bit of flair on show at times. Fucking murder to play against last season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vikingTON Posted September 16, 2023 Share Posted September 16, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Liam899 said: Morton are very very physical, I actually enjoyed watching them last season. They also play as well. Imrie certainly gets his players giving everything. Glad French played, he’ll get better after being out for so long. I really don't understand what other fans actually mean by 'physical'. The Morton midfield is populated by hard-running midgets: if you're being roughed up by Cameron Blues in a physical contest then you're as well chucking professional football. Indeed Morton's midfield quite often gets physically bullied by the parade of 6 foot plus hammer-throwing ringers that the rest of the league can draft into their team without any such comment. Meanwhile Robbie Muirhead up front has been tried and consistently failed as a physical, Jan Koller-style target man. What is true about Imrie's team is that they press and get in the opposition's face as much as possible. Hard running, the fitness to do that and then the opportunity to compete for challenges is not actually 'physical' play by the meaning of the term chucked at this team on a weekly basis. Edited September 16, 2023 by vikingTON 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardle is Magic Posted September 17, 2023 Share Posted September 17, 2023 More dropped points at home from the runaway title favourites. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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