Russell Brand - In Plain Sight

[Granny Danger]

If the allegations are true then he should go to jail.

But it shouldn’t stop there, there should be a thorough investigation into his enablers.  Saville got away with it for years because people who could have stopped it turned a blind eye and no one paid the price.  This should not be allowed to happen this time.

[Brother Blades]

Good on the lad Sloss for being upfront. But why not say something sooner? Lawyers & a rich guy? Probably. 

[welshbairn]

9 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

I was just offering a straight answer to the "didn't he do something dodgy" question.

But if we're playing the prediction game, I fully expect to be saying in 9 years time that I always knew @Francesc Fabregas was a wrongun

Seconded, with the caveat that everyone is innocent until proven guilty and I remember that poor falsely accused oddball teacher in Bristol who got lawyered up.. 

[btb]

Will he be using the "unwise but not illegal" defence?

[Jaggy McJagface]

2 minutes ago, Brother Blades said:

Good on the lad Sloss for being upfront. But why not say something sooner? Lawyers & a rich guy? Probably. 

I think Catherine Ryan basically said it was a combination of not wanting to be sued into oblivion by his army of lawyers and the fact she wasn’t a victim herself so it wasn’t her place to make it public. I imagine that’s why others were the same.

[Sherrif John Bunnell]

35 minutes ago, Brother Blades said:

Oooooft! 

Stones, glass, shouldn’t, houses, 

 

I was hoping nobody would notice that.

[Brother Blades]

2 minutes ago, Jaggy McJagface said:

I think Catherine Ryan basically said it was a combination of not wanting to be sued into oblivion by his army of lawyers and the fact she wasn’t a victim herself so it wasn’t her place to make it public. I imagine that’s why others were the same.

Yeah, I’ve read elsewhere that there was also the possibility of a Super Injunction too, which makes Sloss appear more of a good guy.

If Fielding, Ross etc don’t comment, they are either complicit or cowards. 

[Brother Blades]

10 minutes ago, btb said:

Will he be using the "unwise but not illegal" defence?

I get what you mean, but pretty sure rape is illegal? Also sounds like he’s sexually assaulted at let two in the UK? 

I don’t imagine he’ll be back in the US voluntarily any time soon, just in case... 

 

[Jacksgranda]

2 hours ago, carpetmonster said:

That is fucking grim reading. 

How many times have we read similar stuff?
And how many more times are we to read similar stuff?

It's like youngsters being abused and murdered by their parents/step parents/foster parents - it just happens again and again and again. And although "lessons have been learned" they don't seem to be on the curriculum the next time it happens.

[Brother Blades]

7 minutes ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

I was hoping nobody would notice that.

Fair fucks, plenty others made the same mistake, your main mistake was highlighting another poster without checking you were squeaky clean yourself. 

[carpetmonster]

7 minutes ago, Jacksgranda said:

How many times have we read similar stuff?
And how many more times are we to read similar stuff?

It's like youngsters being abused and murdered by their parents/step parents/foster parents - it just happens again and again and again. And although "lessons have been learned" they don't seem to be on the curriculum the next time it happens.

Nothing will be done. We’re only a couple of years removed from the Royal Family spending 12m of taxpayers money to shield one of their own from consequences of similar behavior  yet a large number of that same taxpayer are disgusted by some football fans booing a song that references the monarchy. 

Edited September 16, 2023 by carpetmonster

[BFTD]

19 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

If the allegations are true then he should go to jail.

But it shouldn’t stop there, there should be a thorough investigation into his enablers.  Saville got away with it for years because people who could have stopped it turned a blind eye and no one paid the price.  This should not be allowed to happen this time.

Unfortunately, it appears to be ingrained into the entertainment industry that the talent must be kept happy at all costs, both here and in America. Some of the stories of what they're allowed to do just to keep production going are quite astounding, up to and including sexual assault. Last one I read was about the star of a film demanding that a make-up artist get her tits out, and refusing to work for hours because she wouldn't. In the end she did because she was getting the blame for the amount of time and money being wasted (I've read estimates that it can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds per hour just to have everyone on set during a shoot).

[printer]

5 hours ago, Rugster said:

Bussell Rrand by the way.  Not Brussel Rand. 

I think he's going for an extra level of protection from libel, cleverly deviating from the normal rules.

44 minutes ago, Mark Connolly said:

I was just offering a straight answer to the "didn't he do something dodgy" question.

But if we're playing the prediction game, I fully expect to be saying in 9 years time that I always knew @Francesc Fabregas was a wrongun

Have you used a real name there or swapped first letters?

[BFTD]

I'm absolutely shiteing it now that Brussel Rand might read this someday  

[Mark Connolly]

Just now, printer said:

Have you used a real name there or swapped first letters?

That ambiguity is exactly what will save me in court, as long as I invoke Magna Carta as well

[welshbairn]

Why didn't they listen? 

[sophia]

Just now, Mark Connolly said:

That ambiguity is exactly what will save me in court, as long as I invoke Magna Carta as well

She didn't die in vain 

[Wile E Coyote]

9 minutes ago, BTFD said:

 

. Last one I read was about the star of a film demanding that a make-up artist get her tits out, and refusing to work for hours because she wouldn't. In the end she did because she was getting the blame for the amount of time and money being wasted (I've read estimates that it can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds per hour just to have everyone on set during a shoot).

That was Brand on the set of "What About Dick". Billy Connolly was also working on it and heard about it and had words with him.He should have knocked f**k out of him.

Brand's behaviour should not have been tolerated then and he should have been told to get to f**k but these arseholes are seen as valuble and so think they are untouchable

Edited September 16, 2023 by Wile E Coyote

[Moomintroll]

8 minutes ago, BTFD said:

Unfortunately, it appears to be ingrained into the entertainment industry that the talent must be kept happy at all costs, both here and in America. Some of the stories of what they're allowed to do just to keep production going are quite astounding, up to and including sexual assault. Last one I read was about the star of a film demanding that a make-up artist get her tits out, and refusing to work for hours because she wouldn't. In the end she did because she was getting the blame for the amount of time and money being wasted (I've read estimates that it can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds per hour just to have everyone on set during a shoot).

I see what you did there.

[Miguel Sanchez]

10 minutes ago, BTFD said:

Unfortunately, it appears to be ingrained into the entertainment industry that the talent must be kept happy at all costs, both here and in America. Some of the stories of what they're allowed to do just to keep production going are quite astounding, up to and including sexual assault. Last one I read was about the star of a film demanding that a make-up artist get her tits out, and refusing to work for hours because she wouldn't. In the end she did because she was getting the blame for the amount of time and money being wasted (I've read estimates that it can cost tens or hundreds of thousands of pounds per hour just to have everyone on set during a shoot).

You read that in this thread less than twelve hours ago. 

11 hours ago, ICTChris said:

I doubt any of Brand’s current audience will really care about this. If you are being ultra cynical you might suggest he’s deliberately cultivated this sort of audience because he knew that eventually someone would do this sort of expose on his behaviour. 

Someone involved in the entertainment industry once told me a story about Brand - he was doing a movie and refused to leave his dressing room for shooting until the make up artist showed him her breasts. She refused and he sat in his trailer for several hours until eventually the make up artist just said “oh get it over with”, pulled up her top and showed him. He then came out and filming resumed.

The person who told me this wasn’t there and heard it third or fourth hand so I wouldn’t say it’s entirely reliable but that’s the sort of story people tell about Brand.