shizzlemanizzle Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 On 22/05/2024 at 09:43, Smokerson said: Clarke has used Adams and Dykes reasonably effectively , tends to be Dykes when we're up against it and we want that option to go a bit more direct and he can wrestle and rough up defenders and Adams when we have more of the ball and look to link the front a bit more and slide him in down the sides. Shankland as good as he has been looks like a back up, unless he can bang a few goals in the friendlies. I dont see these three being shunned to the side so we can try mctominay as a false 9. I know it’s been discussed before, using McTominay up front, but if Dykes is to miss out I would love to see McTominay played up front in either of these friendlies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 58 minutes ago, shizzlemanizzle said: I know it’s been discussed before, using McTominay up front, but if Dykes is to miss out I would love to see McTominay played up front in either of these friendlies. As would I. As a false 9. Manchester United have played with two false 9s for three matches. Won all three. 3-4-1-2 (2 being false 9s) would get my vote. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzlemanizzle Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 1 minute ago, SlayerX said: As would I. As a false 9. Manchester United have played with two false 9s for three matches. Won all three. 3-4-1-2 (2 being false 9s) would get my vote. Agreed. As a release when we are under pressure he has the physicality and control to be able to hold the ball up and spread passes about as the midfield surges up the park. We would obviously lose his presence further back but I think we are going to need some plan b’s and think this is worth exploring before the tournament. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chripper Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 21 minutes ago, shizzlemanizzle said: Agreed. As a release when we are under pressure he has the physicality and control to be able to hold the ball up and spread passes about as the midfield surges up the park. We would obviously lose his presence further back but I think we are going to need some plan b’s and think this is worth exploring before the tournament. Definitely. Particularly against Germany where we will need to flood the midfield. If we don't then Kroos will destroy us. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkoRaj Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 McTominay is better bursting forward than he is with his back to goal It was Fernandes that played as a false 9 in the cup final 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shizzlemanizzle Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 (edited) 17 minutes ago, MarkoRaj said: McTominay is better bursting forward than he is with his back to goal It was Fernandes that played as a false 9 in the cup final He can’t play for Scotland, he’s Finnish. i do agree, McTominay arriving late in the box worked immensely in the qualifiers but it’s a decent plan b to play him up front. Edited June 1 by shizzlemanizzle 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 HE. WOULD. NOT. BE. A. FALSE. NINE. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Streets of Raith Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 McTominay is a straight lines footballer, by playing him up front you expose his weaknesses and give him no opportunity to play to his strengths. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Scotch Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 Mctominay doesn't have that strikers instinct, it was prevalent when he was playing further forward for Man Utd recently, you're dreaming if you think Clarke is now gonna start playing him as a CF. He'll either play Adams or Shankland there all three games or more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bing.McCrosby Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 5 hours ago, MarkoRaj said: McTominay is better bursting forward than he is with his back to goal It was Fernandes that played as a false 9 in the cup final I dont see him as a false 9 tbh more of a traditional no 9 if he was going to do it. Weve not seen him play that role so of course there is more evidence he can score from midfield. 2 hours ago, Butters Scotch said: Mctominay doesn't have that strikers instinct, it was prevalent when he was playing further forward for Man Utd recently, you're dreaming if you think Clarke is now gonna start playing him as a CF. He'll either play Adams or Shankland there all three games or more I think you probably right its very unlikely. But it was also unlikely for him to be at centre back a while ago. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Butters Scotch Posted June 1 Share Posted June 1 13 minutes ago, Bing.McCrosby said: I dont see him as a false 9 tbh more of a traditional no 9 if he was going to do it. Weve not seen him play that role so of course there is more evidence he can score from midfield. I think you probably right its very unlikely. But it was also unlikely for him to be at centre back a while ago. I was hoping to see him upfront out of pure desperation more than anything but watching him against Newcastle, he just looked a bit lost as the CF in my opinion. He didn't quite time his runs well or anticipate the ball coming into the box, wasn't quite sure how to play with his back against goal, you could see he wasn't used to playing that position. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 16 hours ago, craigkillie said: HE. WOULD. NOT. BE. A. FALSE. NINE. Why not? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigkillie Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 3 minutes ago, JS_FFC said: Why not? See below. On 26/05/2024 at 10:43, craigkillie said: McTominay playing at centre-forward would not be a false nine, he would be a midfielder playing as a traditional nine. A false nine is when you pick a ball playing attacking midfielder as a nominal centre-forward but then they play most of the game in a deeper area and create space for wide attackers or runners from the middle. If we put Stuart Armstrong or Ryan Christie there then they might be a false nine, but even that would be pushing it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 4 hours ago, craigkillie said: See below. The role you describe is precisely what McTominay would be doing 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 2 Share Posted June 2 Would like to see the minute splits over the two games be about: GK: Gunn (180), Gordon, Clark, Kelly (All 0) RWB: Ralston (120), McCrorie (60) RCB: Porteous (120), Souttar (60) CCB: Hanley (60), Hendry (60), McKenna (30) LCB: Cooper (90), Tierney (60), McKenna (30) LWB: Taylor (90), Robertson (60), Tierney (30) RCM: Gilmour (120), McLean (60) LCM: Jack (120), McGregor (60) CAM: Armstrong (30) RW: Forrest (120), Christie (60) CF: Shankland (60), Adams (60), McTominay (60) LW: Armstrong (60), Doak (60), McGinn (60) Ive got CCB only adding to 150 as id play 4-2-3-1 for the second half against Finland 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Craigieboy Posted June 3 Share Posted June 3 I think cut Ralston, Dykes, Cooper and Kelly but D.Armstrong and Stewart in squad 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CM. Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) On 02/06/2024 at 18:49, JS_FFC said: Would like to see the minute splits over the two games be about: GK: Gunn (180), Gordon, Clark, Kelly (All 0) RWB: Ralston (120), McCrorie (60) RCB: Porteous (120), Souttar (60) CCB: Hanley (60), Hendry (60), McKenna (30) LCB: Cooper (90), Tierney (60), McKenna (30) LWB: Taylor (90), Robertson (60), Tierney (30) RCM: Gilmour (120), McLean (60) LCM: Jack (120), McGregor (60) CAM: Armstrong (30) RW: Forrest (120), Christie (60) CF: Shankland (60), Adams (60), McTominay (60) LW: Armstrong (60), Doak (60), McGinn (60) Ive got CCB only adding to 150 as id play 4-2-3-1 for the second half against Finland Fancied checking in on this after tonights game. So far we have (without injury time included) Clark 90 McCrorie 90 Porteous 90 Christie 90 McGinn 90 Shankland 90 Gilmour 73 McLean 73 Robertson 66 Forrest 66 Hanley 45 Cooper 32 Tierney 24 Adams 24 Jack 17 McGregor 17 McKenna 13 Of the ones who got the full game tonight, I expect, IMO, our strongest available line up on Friday so Porteous and McGinn starting again on but come off at some point. Probably Christie starting again too if McTominay doesn't make it. Gunn Porteous Hendry Tierney Ralston Gilmour McGregor Robertson McTominay/Christie McGinn Adams Edited June 4 by CM. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nessies long lost ghost Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 I think if all people are fit Clarke will start this team Gunn Porteous Hendry, Tierney Ralston, Gilmour, McGregor, Robertson McGinn, McTominay Adams 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itzdrk Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 Ireland v Hungary probably more interesting than Switzerland v Estonia for us tonight. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiviLion Posted June 4 Share Posted June 4 (edited) Gibraltar 0-2 Scotland Germany 0-0 Ukraine Switzerland 4-0 Estonia Ireland 2-1 Hungary Edited June 4 by LiviLion 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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