Bully Wee Villa Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 She's a horrible arsehole. It would be the stupidest appointment since Clyde brought Jim Duffy back. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alta-pete Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 minute ago, Jedi2 said: But once Kate starts pursuing a low tax, light touch regulation programme, promoting oil and gas, downplaying Environmentalism and Equality, potentially trimming public service budgets...why wouldn't the Tories get on board with that? She would win the next Holyrood election...hoovering up 'soft' Tory votes, suggesting that Independence is a 'longer process' of needing to persuade enough people with competent/strong govt, and, in addition to the soft Tory vote, retaining most of the SNP's existing share as it will be a 'who else is there to vote for' response ^^^ this guy kens. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 8 minutes ago, wirez said: I think it is entirely fair to remind people of your very recent past voting record as you pass high handed judgement on SNP candidates presently. I never said it’s unfair, I’m just a wee bit concerned that my posting on here appears to upset you so much. I wouldn’t want to be the cause of any distress 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Malkmus Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 The SNP's biggest mid/long term strategic challenge isn't winning over Tory voters, it's making sure young voters don't drift away. Recent polls have shown they are weakest in over 65s (the Tories they'll never win over) and under 25s (who are being tempted by Labour as they've never experienced a Labour gov before). Forbes tanks the under 25 vote further and long term makes independence less likely. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Twelve Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 12 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: But once Kate starts pursuing a low tax, light touch regulation programme, promoting oil and gas, downplaying Environmentalism and Equality, potentially trimming public service budgets...why wouldn't the Tories get on board with that? She would win the next Holyrood election...hoovering up 'soft' Tory votes, suggesting that Independence is a 'longer process' of needing to persuade enough people with competent/strong govt, and, in addition to the soft Tory vote, retaining most of the SNP's existing share as it will be a 'who else is there to vote for' response I'm not wholly convinced that the UK Tory policies of the last 14 years are necessarily going to be vote winners in Scotland in 2026. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Think we are a stage where the SNP have between 30-35% of the vote in the bag though..doesn't matter who the leader is, or what the policies are-they are still seen as the only vehicle to Independece. 30-35 is still enough to probably win most seats at Holyrood and even avoid a GE meltdown 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wirez Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: Think we are a stage where the SNP have between 30-35% of the vote in the bag though..doesn't matter who the leader is, or what the policies are-they are still seen as the only vehicle to Independece. 30-35 is still enough to probably win most seats at Holyrood and even avoid a GE meltdown But advances the route to independence not one iota. Good for the party. Bad for the country. Edited April 29 by wirez typo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScotiaNostra Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) Could a poor GE for the snp have any impact on whoever the next FM is? Im just thinking could we potentially see someone resigning after that and then we would have a scottish election in 25 and 26 or would the new FM have to limp along for a whole year Edited April 29 by ScotiaNostra 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Maybe Kate Forbes will do UDI because God told her to. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wee Bully Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 Kate Forbes has the veneer of competence, which is what the SNP needs atm. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 1 hour ago, Jedi2 said: But once Starmer starts pursuing a low tax, light touch regulation programme, promoting oil and gas, downplaying Environmentalism and Equality, potentially trimming public service budgets...why wouldn't the Tories get on board with that? FTFY, the whole Labour strategy.. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welshbairn Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Kate Forbes has the veneer of competence, which is what the SNP needs atm. Founded on one budget speech when she managed to read what had been written for her without fumbling. Edited April 29 by welshbairn 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted April 29 Share Posted April 29 16 minutes ago, Wee Bully said: Kate Forbes has the veneer of competence, which is what the SNP needs atm. Beauty is only skin deep. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trogdor Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 35 minutes ago, welshbairn said: Founded on one budget speech when she managed to read what had been written for her without fumbling. Not many or the SNP front bench could manage that tbf. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeeTillEhDeh Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 (edited) Put this on the other thread but will repeat here. It's an even worse choice than last time. We have Forbes being treated as the Devil Incarnate/Messiah (delete as applicable). I personally have sn issue with her not because of her religious tinted views but how she crumbled last time round with simple questions related to said views. If she can't handle simple bat away questions is she really capable of dealing with the more robust attacks? Swinney is just an appalling choice - even closer to Sturgeon than Yousaf. That wouldn't necessarily be an issue on its own if it weren't for the fact that he has been useless in almost every cabinet position he has served in - possibly one of the worst ever Education Ministers we have had. His only saving grace was his stint as Finance Minister. And to compound matters he is about as inspirational as a wet weekend in Largs. Edited April 30 by DeeTillEhDeh 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 9 hours ago, Savage Henry said: She refuses to frequent probably the best bakery in Inverness because of the owners’ sexual preferences. Dispicable is putting it mildly. What's this now? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrbridgeSaintee Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 42 minutes ago, HeWhoWalksBehindTheRows said: What's this now? Made up nonsense is what it is. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 8 hours ago, Zen Archer (Raconteur) said: Life under Kate, welcome to Sundays. Or, in other words, Inverness on a Saturday. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Molotov Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 10 hours ago, Savage Henry said: She refuses to frequent probably the best bakery in Inverness because of the owners’ sexual preferences. Dispicable is putting it mildly. Carlsbread? Probably the best in the world…. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted April 30 Share Posted April 30 8 hours ago, Jedi2 said: 'Fantatist...equating to the self same Kate Forbes taking 48% of the SNP membership vote a year ago, no not a majority but that was against Yousaf who was more of a draw than Swinney would be (seriously) It's all about staying in power...with Forbes you get backing in the chamber from the Tories to get legislation through (aside from obviously Independence). With the Tories having enough seats at Holyrood to make a difference to the numbers. So 'strong and stable' govt with Katie it is..or more chaos from the Greens with Swinney You always were good for a laugh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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