Fullerene Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 3 hours ago, O'Kelly Isley III said: Hard copy maybe, but a front page like that is powerful in digital form for those who can't be arsed questioning what they're looking at. Also BBC political shows that include a section on "what the papers say". It is not the role of the BBC to promote any newspaper or let them set the discussion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Labour fuckwit betting against himself. Bellend...but funny. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soapy FFC Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 1 minute ago, scottsdad said: Labour fuckwit betting against himself. Bellend...but funny. I wonder how he became a candidate Quote The candidate has donated more than £100,000 to Labour in the last few years. A spokesperson for Labour said it would return £100,000 donated under Keir Starmer’s leadership. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Just now, Soapy FFC said: I wonder how he became a candidate And...cabinet minister Alister Jack voted on a July election. Scotland's champion. But it's fine because it wasn't in May. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 48 minutes ago, scottsdad said: And...cabinet minister Alister Jack voted on a July election. Scotland's champion. But it's fine because it wasn't in May. This is enough to rip your knitting. People involved in football are not allowed to gamble on football - any football. Surely to f**k people who are recognised (and paid) as politicians shouldn't be gambling on political outcomes at any stage. Ok, Viceroy Jack put his bet on in March - so what? It's perfectly conceivable that, from the start of the year in which an election is going to take place, the cabinet are considering the optimal time to go to the country. And that they're doing so with input from data analysts and others on how the economy will look etc. If there's any risk that people are using information gathered in the process of their day job to place bets then they should be getting a tap on the shoulder. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi2 Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 Any updates on MSP's using public money to pay for sending out SNP GE leaflets yet? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 On 21/06/2024 at 21:11, scottsdad said: Went to St Andrews today (a fucking dump, btw). Wall to wall Lib Dem Winning Here signs. A dump ? From someone *checks notes* in Fucking Falkirk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lichtgilphead Posted June 25 Share Posted June 25 52 minutes ago, Jedi2 said: Any updates on MSP's using public money to pay for sending out SNP GE leaflets yet? All GE candidates are entitled to send out one leaflet at public expense. As far as I'm aware, DRoss is the only MSP that is a candidate at this GE, so I expect that he will have taken advantage of the public's generosity. I doubt that he will be sending out SNP leaflets though. HTH 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theroadlesstravelled Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 16 hours ago, Musketeer Gripweed said: John Oliver's writing team really nail those hot takes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirty dingus Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 9 hours ago, Fullerene said: Also BBC political shows that include a section on "what the papers say". It is not the role of the BBC to promote any newspaper or let them set the discussion. This should be banned as it's blatant manipulation to follow whatever political narrative the particular shows editors want to follow. It is also a free shot for talking heads from dodgy think tanks and pressure groups to get their dark money funded groups some sort of mainstream acceptance/recognition. The worse is the Shereen Nanjiani radio show which is basically a let's go through all the SNP bad stuff in the Express, Times and the Mail. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sparky88 Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 7 hours ago, HTG said: This is enough to rip your knitting. People involved in football are not allowed to gamble on football - any football. Surely to f**k people who are recognised (and paid) as politicians shouldn't be gambling on political outcomes at any stage. Ok, Viceroy Jack put his bet on in March - so what? It's perfectly conceivable that, from the start of the year in which an election is going to take place, the cabinet are considering the optimal time to go to the country. And that they're doing so with input from data analysts and others on how the economy will look etc. If there's any risk that people are using information gathered in the process of their day job to place bets then they should be getting a tap on the shoulder. I don't really see the problem with betting on seats if you are a politician. There's a world of difference between that and betting on what the date of an election is when you know what date the election will be. A politician can't affect the outcomes of a vote to the extent a footballer can do so on a match, so the comparison doesn't really work. I notice Tories are as much as 4/7 for the seat the Labour candidate bet against himself which is quite tempting. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alert Mongoose Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 30 minutes ago, sparky88 said: A politician can't affect the outcomes of a vote to the extent a footballer can do so on a match, so the comparison doesn't really work. A politician has no influence on the vote in his or her constituency? Whit? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scottsdad Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Reports that up to 15 Tories now being investigated for betting on the timing of the election. Admission from a cabinet minister that he bet on the timing of the election. How will the press report this widespread corruption? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 "Labour man suspended for betting on election; party acts as Tory minister 'says he won £2,100'" TBF, they might genuinely be getting the two parties confused. Thatcherism feels positively socialist these days; I only remember she was a Conservative because Labour hardly ever win. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Blades Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 1 hour ago, BFTD said: "Labour man suspended for betting on election; party acts as Tory minister 'says he won £2,100'" TBF, they might genuinely be getting the two parties confused. Thatcherism feels positively socialist these days; I only remember she was a Conservative because Labour hardly ever win. Jack apparently was “joking” when he said he’d won £2100. Real amount apparently £120. Not that it makes any difference. Labour boy bet against himself! . if it wasn’t such an affront to the voting public, it would be hilarious. a.) the stupidity of using online accounts to bet, what happened to laying several smaller bets in different bookies in person, or better still get mates to do it. b.) Having inside knowledge on a dead cert & not going all out, making yourself tens of thousands. I genuinely thought our politicians were more underhand than what they are demonstrating- fucking amateurs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Granny Danger Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 We needn’t worry about Alister Jack any more. The former Secretary of State for Scotland and untra Unionist clown will soon be gone and replaced with… Spoiler … another ultra Unionist clown. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eindhovendee Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 Not sure how Sunak can think this will look OK with the public and I know he will have security advisors but ffs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFTD Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 4 minutes ago, eindhovendee said: Not sure how Sunak can think this will look OK with the public and I know he will have security advisors but ffs. At this point, he won't be giving a single solitary f**k how it looks to the public. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Highlandmagar Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 4 hours ago, scottsdad said: Reports that up to 15 Tories now being investigated for betting on the timing of the election. Admission from a cabinet minister that he bet on the timing of the election. How will the press report this widespread corruption? Only 15? That is disappointing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTG Posted June 26 Share Posted June 26 6 hours ago, sparky88 said: I don't really see the problem with betting on seats if you are a politician. There's a world of difference between that and betting on what the date of an election is when you know what date the election will be. A politician can't affect the outcomes of a vote to the extent a footballer can do so on a match, so the comparison doesn't really work. I notice Tories are as much as 4/7 for the seat the Labour candidate bet against himself which is quite tempting. It's not what they can affect, it's what they know or may know. They have the potential to have greater access to data or other activity that may not be in the public domain. As I understand it, if you're a director at Hibs or a player at Raith Rovers, you're not allowed to bet on any football match whether it's in Scotland or Slovakia. It's pretty clear that a Raith Rovers centre half can't influence a Slovakian league match nor are they likely to have access to inside information. But footballers are transients now and rather than set all sorts of conditions around when you can get on football, the safe option is to have rules in place that are clear. Politics should be the same. If you represent a party or are intending to do so, you shouldn't be betting on political outcomes. They shouldn't be setting up companies to supply shite PPE either but ... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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