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1 minute ago, Sherrif John Bunnell said:

Delighted to hear that Cherry is out on her arse. A nasty piece of work.

Alas Scott Arthur is a complete c**t as well.

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I see the former Minister of State for Brexit Opportunities and Government Efficiency , former Leader of the House of Commons and former Business Secretary is out on his rich arse. Cheerio Jake, cheerio.  

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Some minor things I’ve noticed in the Scottish results.

Reform hardly campaigned at all in Scotland yet seem to have done pretty well. I think in terms of votes they are ahead of the Greens and Lib Dems. There’s a paradox in Scottish politics sometimes - basically no-one campaigned for Leave in 2016 here but that side of the vote got nearly 40%. Reform could start to take away from the Tory vote in some places here in the next few years. Big *could* though.

The Greens seem to have done well where they stood, especially in a vote where they basically can’t win any seats. Kind of belies the idea that the BHA and the Greens was the big problem for the SNP.

Alba are completely cooked. Wouldn’t surprise me if they wound themselves up. Their two MPs posting around the level of Sid and Doris Bonkers-type candidates, there is obviously not any sort of appetite for swivel-eyes Indy maniacs in the country.

The average majority in the UK is now 6,000 and there really isn’t such a thing as a safe seat anymore. It used to be parties had to chip away for several elections to get a majority but now the changes are fast and sweeping. Labour have had a historic win tonight, straight after their worst result for 80+ years. The SNP have been hammered not long after winning nearly every seat. Politics on the UK is now far less predictable and stable than it was even 15 years ago.

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The fact that Farage is now an MP means the next Tory leadership race is going to be a swerve to the far right. Badenoch or Braverman...

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Scotland really is a miserable backwater that only gets what it deserves.  

Better isn't possible.  

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52 minutes ago, Big Fifer said:

Just woken up and turned the TV on, Martin Geissler is all over the place with the Scottish coverage of the results. 

I like this lad as a broadcaster.  Enjoyed his documentaries on BBC Scotland. 

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37 minutes ago, AUcal said:

Been watching Rebus, did i miss anything?

Yup,Scotland has just slunk back into it's shell awaiting another booting.

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1 hour ago, Lex said:

Paisley and Renfrewshire North and Paisley and Renfrewshire South both going from SNP to Labour. 
Something quite comforting seeing all of Paisley go back to red again. It had been for about 100 years before 2015.
Historians will look back at tonight as the night the country finally moved on from the independence referendum result. 
Took us 10 years of bizarre politics and electoral results right enough, but we’ve done it.

Back to normalcy.

Forgot you were a total fud

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56 MPs? Now is not the time to discuss Independence.

9 MPs? It's a clear dismissal of any Independence talk.

 

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8 minutes ago, itzdrk said:

Scotland really is a miserable backwater that only gets what it deserves.  

Better isn't possible.  

That’s the spirit!

Both the Tories and the SNP got the kicking they so richly deserved. The SNP can now reflect and try and be more competent and voter friendly before the next Holyrood elections.

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42 minutes ago, ScotiaNostra said:

Im pretty happy waking up to that, the UK needed a labour government with a clear majority. In Scotland the snp needed this so that it might realise just how out of touch it has got.
 

all in all no tories is a bighter future however you look at it 

 

There hace been 609 Tories elected so far. 

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This has been an unmitigated disaster for the SNP.

One that very few of us saw coming and one that they need to start working to address now.

However for the Unionist who are gloating or the supporters of Independence who are gutted let me repost a fact I posted earlier in the evening.

At the 2010 GE the SNP won 6 seats, at the 2015 GE they won 56 seats.  The current FPTP system makes swings of that magnitude very possible.

Recent polls have also suggested that support for Independence is still very high.

Of course 56 seats in 2015 was unjustified, it was nowhere near a reflection of how the people of Scotland voted but we have a fucked up electoral system.

That same system is going to hand Starmer one of the biggest majorities ever with roughly only 1 in 3 people voting Labour.

Democratic?  That’s questionable.

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10 minutes ago, I Clavdivs said:

Yup,Scotland has just slunk back into it's shell awaiting another booting.

It was certainly a Scotland quality show of defending by the SNP.  But it’s hard to say it wasn’t deserved.  

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Just now, Scary Bear said:

That’s the spirit!

Both the Tories and the SNP got the kicking they so richly deserved. The SNP can now reflect and try and be more competent and voter friendly before the next Holyrood elections.

They both absolutely did deserve it. 

The fact that the kicking that was given (in Scotland) was in the form of red blue Tories tells a totally different story about what is happening though.  

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4 minutes ago, Granny Danger said:

This has been an unmitigated disaster for the SNP.

One that very few of us saw coming and one that they need to start working to address now.

However for the Unionist who are gloating or the supporters of Independence who are gutted let me repost a fact I posted earlier in the evening.

At the 2010 GE the SNP won 6 seats, at the 2015 GE they won 56 seats.  The current FPTP system makes swings of that magnitude very possible.

Recent polls have also suggested that support for Independence is still very high.

Of course 56 seats in 2015 was unjustified, it was nowhere near a reflection of how the people of Scotland voted but we have a fucked up electoral system.

That same system is going to hand Starmer one of the biggest majorities ever with roughly only 1 in 3 people voting Labour.

Democratic?  That’s questionable.

How could anyone not see that coming? When party influencers like Gillian Sturgeon can't even be bothered voting you must surely know the ball has long been burst. 

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Just now, O'Kelly Isley III said:

In 2019 Boris Johnson,'s Tories won a massive majority.  Yesterday Keir Starmer's Labour party won a huge majority.  This scale of political oscillation doesn't suggest a United Kingdom at ease with itself.

 

Liz Truss happened. 

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