Who are you voting for in GE24

[vikingTON]

Just now, scottsdad said:

How did you spoil your ballot? Draw cock and balls? Write "I am a fish"?

I can't recall with 100% but I think it involved writing 'utter shite' across the diagonal length of the ballot paper. It had all the self-righteous fury of storming off to the pub when your team is 2-0 down. 

[JS_FFC]

Over 100,000 people spoiled their ballots in 2007.

[lichtgilphead]

4 minutes ago, virginton said:

 It had all the self-righteous fury of storming off to the pub when your team is 2-0 down. 

Staying in Cappilow or going to the Norseman. That's grim.

Would suicide not be better?

[vikingTON]

9 minutes ago, lichtgilphead said:

Staying in Cappilow or going to the Norseman. That's grim.

Would suicide not be better?

The Norseman actually does a pretty good pint of Drygate Kelvin pilsner for £3.50 now. If you can tolerate the owner's shite patter, it's better than the massively overrated and stupidly mobbed Tuttie's Neuk*.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Both are shat on from a great height by The Foundry. 

[GordonS]

On 23/05/2024 at 10:16, Oystercatcher said:

I'm in East Kilbride, where the absolute moon howler, lisa Cameron is MP. She was SNP, no-one in the party liked her so she complained then defected to the Tories. 

I'll just be glad to see that cow gone.

As for who I'm voting for, for the first time in 35 years I honestly don't know.

Always been SNP, but I really don't like them at the moment, will never vote labour or tory, voted green in the Scottish election but at a GE? Don't think so.

I feel a-political now 

 

On 23/05/2024 at 13:14, Hammer Jag said:

Labour will win my seat at a canter, especially as our current MP defected from the SNP to the Tories.

I will probably reluctantly vote for the SNP and their career politican, zero life exeperience candidate as I despise Labour and the Tories with every fibre of my being. 

But I've never been as apathetic towards an election in my life.

You may feel differently about her, but I think the Labour candidate in East Kilbride and Strathaven is a contemptible *srsehole. Please don't let her get elected.

The SNP got double Labour's vote in that seat at the election so it's very, very far from a seat they can expect to win at a canter, regardless of Lisa Cameron being a Tory loon. 

[GordonS]

On 23/05/2024 at 11:22, Granny Danger said:

I’d agree.  But given that a GE was almost definitely going to be held during this calendar year it suggests these 150 associations were not exactly on the ball either.

The problem was that they had not required sitting MPs to confirm whether they would continue. Arguably they ought to have done that sooner.

[Miguel Sanchez]

I wrote the word "no" in every box in the last council election. I started to feel quite self-conscious because there were about fifteen of them.

[GordonS]

58 minutes ago, invergowrie arab said:

Has anybody actually spoiled a ballot?

I find it improbable you would meet someone who has given any count I have been at has had less than 0.5% spoiled and less than 10% of those are actively spoiled as opposed to void for uncertainty.

And in case anyone thinks it results in an outbreak of mass faintings it chucked in a plastic box and everyone gets on with recording the rest.

Anyway I'll be voting SNP as they are absolutely brilliant and only indepedence will bring Scotland a proper summertime national celebration day.

I have, once. It was an election in which there were four parties standing, only one of whom I would have considered voting for, but their candidate was a twunt. He was certain to win though. I wrote on my paper that I would have voted for x party if they hadn't fielded such an inadequate candidate.

I'd strongly recommend to anyone who spoils their paper that they write a message on it. As you'll presumably know but others won't, at the count, not long before the declaration, the Returning Officer goes through each unclear ballot one-by-one with the candidates (and usually others from the parties). If there are disagreements about whether any should constitute a valid vote for one candidate they are put aside and the Returning Officer rules on them, but the vast majority are obvious. Many are blank, many have been signed (I suspect these are mostly postal votes) and some have the traditional phallus. A few have a message and at the counts I've been to these have always been read out.

Edited May 24 by GordonS

[Inanimate Carbon Rod]

Im going to be out the country on election day, fly out on 22nd june, so dont even know if my postal vote will make it in time. Tbh i could never vote labour, tory or lib dem and i dont think i can bring myself to vote for the snp either now, considering voting for a random monster raving looney candidate as a protest or spoiling my ballot. 

[Hammer Jag]

49 minutes ago, GordonS said:

 

You may feel differently about her, but I think the Labour candidate in East Kilbride and Strathaven is a contemptible *srsehole. Please don't let her get elected.

The SNP got double Labour's vote in that seat at the election so it's very, very far from a seat they can expect to win at a canter, regardless of Lisa Cameron being a Tory loon. 

For what it’s worth, lunatic Cameron was actually pretty helpful when I contacted her about some aggro we were having in our street, and she’s a WID.

[invergowrie arab]

1 hour ago, JS_FFC said:

Over 100,000 people spoiled their ballots in 2007.

"Spoiled Ballots" include ballots rejected for voting for more than one candidate, no vote or mark recorded - these are the vast majority of spoiled ballots - ballots rejected for uncertainty or votes by which the voter could be identified.

2007 was a particular f**k up as they held local elections on the same with a different voting system resulting in a large number. 

[DeeTillEhDeh]

I spoiled my ballot for IndyRef1.

[invergowrie arab]

45 minutes ago, GordonS said:

I have, once. It was an election in which there were four parties standing, only one of whom I would have considered voting for, but their candidate was a twunt. He was certain to win though. I wrote on my paper that I would have voted for x party if they hadn't fielded such an inadequate candidate.

I'd strongly recommend to anyone who spoils their paper that they write a message on it. As you'll presumably know but others won't, at the count, not long before the declaration, the Returning Officer goes through each unclear ballot one-by-one with the candidates (and usually others from the parties). If there are disagreements about whether any should constitute a valid vote for one candidate they are put aside and the Returning Officer rules on them, but the vast majority are obvious. Many are blank, many have been signed (I suspect these are mostly postal votes) and some have the traditional phallus. A few have a message and at the counts I've been to these have always been read out.

Read out to a few nonplussed counting agents. Maybe candidates in small parties who don't have enough counting agents or if the candidate is bored.

The reason for doing this is to ascertain whether or not the message indicates a clear preference eg I was able to get a vote that simply said independence for Scotland included as an SNP vote.

Probably wouldn't have got away with it in a tight election.

Edited May 24 by invergowrie arab

[carpetmonster]

1 hour ago, invergowrie arab said:

Has anybody actually spoiled a ballot?

I find it improbable you would meet someone who has given any count I have been at has had less than 0.5% spoiled and less than 10% of those are actively spoiled as opposed to void for uncertainty.

And in case anyone thinks it results in an outbreak of mass faintings it chucked in a plastic box and everyone gets on with recording the rest.

Anyway I'll be voting SNP as they are absolutely brilliant and only indepedence will bring Scotland a proper summertime national celebration day.

I did in…2000ish? Didn’t want to vote for any of the candidates but my old boy hassled me so much about it being important to vote that I went and spoiled my paper. He then forgot to go and vote. Tit. 
 

ETA - it was a GE so must have been 2001. 

Edited May 24 by carpetmonster

[BFTD]

36 minutes ago, GordonS said:

I have, once. It was an election in which there were four parties standing, only one of whom I would have considered voting for, but their candidate was a twunt. He was certain to win though. I wrote on my paper that I would have voted for x party if they hadn't fielded such an inadequate candidate.

I'd strongly recommend to anyone who spoils their paper that they write a message on it. As you'll presumably know but others won't, at the count, not long before the declaration, the Returning Officer goes through each unclear ballot one-by-one with the candidates (and usually others from the parties). If there are disagreements about whether any should constitute a valid vote for one candidate they are put aside and the Returning Officer rules on them, but the vast majority are obvious. Many are blank, many have been signed (I suspect these are mostly postal votes) and some have the traditional phallus. A few have a message and at the counts I've been to these have always been read out.

Surely not!  

"...one ballot marked 'SNP OOT', one ballot marked 'Douglas Ross wanks dugs', and one final ballot marked 'Shandon Par: for all your home decorating needs, call Queen Margaret Hospital A&E'".

[Dundee Hibernian]

Never spoiled my paper, always voted, but it's a struggle to get enthusiastic this time.

Labour will get in at Westminster as they have for around 30% of the time since WW2, then the Tories will be back in a few years.

Used to be a big Labour voter, my parents both stood as councillors for the party (and lost), but gave up on them over 30 years ago and became an Independence supporter.

Thus it's SNP again this time, reluctantly. They need to get their act together, though.

[GordonS]

4 hours ago, invergowrie arab said:

Read out to a few nonplussed counting agents. Maybe candidates in small parties who don't have enough counting agents or if the candidate is bored.

The reason for doing this is to ascertain whether or not the message indicates a clear preference eg I was able to get a vote that simply said independence for Scotland included as an SNP vote.

Probably wouldn't have got away with it in a tight election.

I've seen them read out to all the candidates.

Greatest ever example is the ballot paper in Na h-Eileanan an Iar that had 'w*nk' or 'good guy' written beside every candidate. There was only one 'good guy', so they got the vote. Most common I've seen is dafties ranking the candidates, in elections with big margins I've seen them taken as a vote for whoever got the 1 but I imagine they're battled over when it's close.

[GordonS]

4 hours ago, invergowrie arab said:

 

2007 was a particular f**k up as they held local elections on the same with a different voting system resulting in a large number. 

In 2007 we had a white paper with council candidates on which you voted with numbers. It was the first time we'd ever had single transferable vote in Scotland.

At the same time we also got a Scottish Parliament election ballot paper which was peach down one half with the constituency candidates, against which we were to put one X, and the other half of the same sheet of paper was purple, with the regional vote listing the parties, against which there was to be one more X.

It was also the first election in which Scotland used counting machines.

Everyone who knew anything about elections told the Scotland Office (who were in charge of SP elections) and the Electoral Commission that it was going to be a flustercluck but they pushed ahead with it. On the night every possible way you could get the papers wrong, several people got it wrong. Some put a 1 on one of the votes, a 2 on another and a 3 on the third. Many put numbers on the Scottish Parliament paper, sometimes skipping between candidates and parties.

Over 140,000 papers were rejected but hundreds of thousands more had to go for adjudication. It was a sh*tshow on a spectacular level and it was entirely predictable.

That election was won by the SNP by one seat, the most marginal of which came through a handful of votes across the North East region. If Labour win that election by one the 2011 landslide doesn't happen, indyref doesn't happen and the 2015 landslide doesn't happen.

[GordonS]

6 hours ago, BFTD said:

Got my campaign posters through today.

People would vote for them.

[BFTD]

4 hours ago, GordonS said:

People would vote for them.

I'm guessing at least 10%; the general rule seems to be that at least 10% of the population will vote for anything. Along with the "I never thought leopards would eat MY face" people, you'd capture the folk who don't know much about politics but thought it was time for a change, the people who secretly love the idea of being eaten alive, the people who'd love to see their nose bitten off to spite their face...

TBH, if Cthulhu's followers were willing to guarantee that he'd bring all of this to an end, all of it, I'd consider him. Not sure if they can be trusted though - I remember people talking about bodies piling up in the streets in the Seventies, which I assume was their work, yet we're still here. Ending this reality is Cthulhu's version of abolishing the House of Lords.