DiegoDiego Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 3 minutes ago, Richey Edwards said: We're not supposed to win easily though. We're supposed to be put through the wringer. Winning easily would be the most un-Scottish thing ever. I mean, you're correct there, but if you don't think it would be the pinnacle of 4.6 billion years of universal existence then I feel sorry for you. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephen Malkmus Posted June 22 Share Posted June 22 Possibly my favourite Scotland memory is when we were two up on Ukraine in about 10 minutes around 2007ish. Same again tomorrow please, Lee McCulloch worldie optional. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 22 Author Share Posted June 22 We need Win and 2 of: Spain avoid defeat England avoid defeat OR Denmark/Serbia draw Netherlands win Neither group E game is a draw Portugal avoid defeat Draw and all of: Spain win Italy win Portugal win Turkey win 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leith Green Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 The "Scotlands Coefficient" twitter feed has my head exploding with this stuff................ 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sensible Soccer🏴 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) No ifs, no buts, we just need to beat imo, a pretty dangerous Hungary side. Edited June 23 by Sensible Soccer🏴 Can't spell 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Connolly Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) 10 hours ago, JS_FFC said: We need Win and 2 of: Spain avoid defeat England avoid defeat OR Denmark/Serbia draw Netherlands win Neither group E game is a draw Portugal avoid defeat Draw and all of: Spain win Italy win Portugal win Turkey win In the win section at least 2 events look quite possible. The draw options not so sure; a so-so Italy v Croatia might not happen and the Czechs are playing for a win/straight qualification against Turkey. Edited June 23 by rainbowrising 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arch Stanton Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 hour ago, Mark Connolly said: 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordonS Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 That's a great wee visual. Worth noting, any scenario in which we're through and Group B's 3rd placed team (Croatia or Albania, both currently on one point and playing Italy and Spain respectively) doesn't get through, we're in Frankfurt on Monday night against Portugal. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 If England lose and Denmark win, pushing England in to 3rd spot, how does that loose cannon impact things? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Virtual Insanity Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 11 minutes ago, rainbowrising said: If England lose and Denmark win, pushing England in to 3rd spot, how does that loose cannon impact things? Not good news for us as they would rank above us (barring a miraculous goal difference swing). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zetterlund Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 12 minutes ago, rainbowrising said: If England lose and Denmark win, pushing England in to 3rd spot, how does that loose cannon impact things? Looking at the graphic above, if this happens and Scotland are sitting on 4 points, it'd also require either Georgia to beat Portugal or Albania to beat Spain for us to go out. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 So I’ve been number crunching the bookie odds. It looks like we have about a 37% chance of going through, but that jumps up to 98% if we win tonight and falls to 7% if we draw. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoingThe42 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 It's obviously poor to have never got out a group, but we've actually not performed as badly in groups as some would have you believe. We've had (new money) 5 points, 4 points three times, three points twice. Ireland, Nothern Ireland, and Wales have all got out of groups with 3 and/or 4 points. And both Ireland and Wales have qualified in the past with 0 wins, by way of comparison. So, it would probably be quite fitting if after some of those better showings, we finally limp into a knockout stage with two mucky draws and a 5-1 battering. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
invergowrie arab Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, DoingThe42 said: It's obviously poor to have never got out a group, but we've actually not performed as badly in groups as some would have you believe. We've had (new money) 5 points, 4 points three times, three points twice. Ireland, Nothern Ireland, and Wales have all got out of groups with 3 and/or 4 points. And both Ireland and Wales have qualified in the past with 0 wins, by way of comparison. So, it would probably be quite fitting if after some of those better showings, we finally limp into a knockout stage with two mucky draws and a 5-1 battering. Whilst it's impossible to say for definite it's incredibly likely we got out of the groups in 92 and 96 if we had a 24 team format. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoingThe42 Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, invergowrie arab said: Whilst it's impossible to say for definite it's incredibly likely we got out of the groups in 92 and 96 if we had a 24 team format. Very likely. And if the 74 and 78 World Cup had been 24 or 32-team tournaments, we'd have been very unlikely to get knocked out of them as well. 82 was 24-team, but a different format. If it had had the 3rd place qualifiers, we'd have qualified. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JS_FFC Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 I’m just waiting for the absolute gut punch that 2 points would have been enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H Wragg Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 (edited) Birthday Caird pish, but thank you to those who put in the effort to keep us informed while it lasted. Edited June 23 by H Wragg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uncle Psychosis Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 What's the odds of Hungary going through with 3? I really would quite like to see the last of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibeeJibee Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 26 minutes ago, Uncle Psychosis said: What's the odds of Hungary going through with 3? I really would quite like to see the last of them. Hungary will almost certainly progress... unless Albania beat Spain or Croatia beat Italy then 3rd in Group B will have just 2pts or 1pt; ditto in F unless Georgia beat Portugal or Czech Rep beat Turkey; ditto in C if England beat Slovenia while Denmark v Serbia doesn't end drawn. There are less likely scenarios for D and E involving thumpings. It may prove that 0-0 would have done us... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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