Alert Mongoose Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: Are ye actually having a laugh? Moyes is a fucking tremendous manager. Yes he sets up in a defensive manner but he still actually wins matches. It was West Ham, they are utterly shite, have always been shite, they won a european trophy, west ham, Moyes would be a great appointment. Ok - matter of opinion but Steve Clarke's team won the first five games of qualifying. I don't believe Moyes would be an improvement but I can't prove that. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 GoN8aH6zmMr2XMFj.mp4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UpInTheAyr Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Distinct lack of scathing criticism from the pundits here. I want some of that Southgate level shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s_dog Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, SirJimmyofNic said: Hes been negative the whole tournament though, no just tonight True but after the disaster that was the Germany game, it was understandable against Switzerland, both of who are far better teams than us. Getting the draw v Switzerland gave us a foothold, but he blew it big time by sticking to the exact same set-up tonight. It's Clarke, no one expected him to go gung-ho, but after seeing how tentative the Hungarians were in the first half, that was the time to make some positive, attacking changes. That's his failing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eez-eh Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 5 minutes ago, s_dog said: Except that we haven't qualified for any tournaments until Clarke came along. Yes he's been too negative tonight, but FFS how quickly can you forgot how much progress there's been under him from where we were? There’s the huge caveat of it being a 24 team tournament now. The only other manager who had a level playing field was Strachan. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inanimate Carbon Rod Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, Arthurlie1981 said: It’s not just tonight or this tournament, our whole set up from youth football all the way to the top domestically is shite. Why do all our talented youngster end up in English academies, cause ours are shite. Even bang average Championship and League 1 sides have better training facilities than we do. Calum McGregor is by far the best midfielder in the SPFL, but is below average at International level, same with Shankland. Then there is the fact we are dominated by 2 teams who would mainly rather sign foreign players rather than develop players from their own academies (with some exceptions). Could we have been more attacking, of course but I don’t think we have the talent to create or take any chances and more likely than not we would have been picked on the counter like we were at the end. Let’s be honest we should have been 1 down at the half. Tonight is no more Clarke’s fault than it is the collective failure of Scottish football. We won’t get any better than this. PS it was a stonewall penalty. The best reaction to this entire thing is to completely change our approach to football from the grass roots up. We are fucking honking and have been left miles behind. Get kids playing futsal, do what the South Americans do. Dont write kids off and chuck them on the scrap heap because they have slightly shorter legs etc etc, make football about possession, ability to dribble, pass and take people on. f**k this hoof ball/isnt it nice to be here pish that we constantly serve up. Fucking get an ethos in that team that we go out and actually try and win. We should never be playing for a fucking draw. Id rather we lost 2:0 and actually tried than this 4D chess pish. 11 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim McLean's Ghost Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 VAR see Armstrong with a fistful of the Hungarian defender's shirt. They aren't going to give hime the benefit of the doubt over their legs clashing. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Savage Henry Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, Ned Nederlander said: You'd rather get pumped than lose it like that - Hungary the better side but on another day we might've done it We'd probably have still gone out but injuries, including presumably Robertson at the end, didn't do us any favours Scotland at tournaments is fucking traumatising. Not sure Hungary were much better. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigmouth Strikes Again Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Worse than watching Dundee. IMO. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Father Ted Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 11 minutes ago, LuboMoravcik said: It was an absolute disgrace we didn't get that penalty. Considering some of the "fouls" Hungary got awarded. It makes that decision almost farcical. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
monrovianmonk Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Robertson was atrocious tonight. We have no players the quality of Szoboszlai unfortunately. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scary Bear Posted June 23 Author Share Posted June 23 What did happen to that Hungarian boy who was stretchered off? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarapoa Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 1 minute ago, Crùbag said: Shankland did more in ten minutes than Adams in 3 games. It was a basketball match by that time. Adams was feeding off scraps. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptn Hooch Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 20 minutes ago, The Master said: New manager in the BBC studio? was kinda hoping he wouldn't be in the studio after the game...because he was in with the SFA bigwigs signing his new contract 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AUcal Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Varga's condition is stable and he regained consciousness before leaving the field apparently. 9 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rainbowrising Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 minutes ago, Savage Henry said: Yeah. Nobody to back up Gunn, nobody up front other than Adams and Dykes, and most of the midfield over 30. I mentioned the average age of this squad in another thread. Players in the 28-32 group are not suddenly going to develop in to good quality. They are what they are. This squad is full of them. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubberlang Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 Just now, Inanimate Carbon Rod said: The best reaction to this entire thing is to completely change our approach to football from the grass roots up. We are fucking honking and have been left miles behind. Get kids playing futsal, do what the South Americans do. Dont write kids off and chuck them on the scrap heap because they have slightly shorter legs etc etc, make football about possession, ability to dribble, pass and take people on. f**k this hoof ball/isnt it nice to be here pish that we constantly serve up. Fucking get an ethos in that team that we go out and actually try and win. We should never be playing for a fucking draw. Id rather we lost 2:0 and actually tried than this 4D chess pish. You look at the challenges allowed to go unpunished in Scottish football, there is zero chance of that happening were hammer throwers 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
embow Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 2 minutes ago, Alert Mongoose said: Ok - matter of opinion but Steve Clarke's team won the first five games of qualifying. I don't believe Moyes would be an improvement but I can't prove that. And did very little thereafter in both qualifying and in subsequent friendlies 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moysterclass Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 f**k this "oooh it's all structural" patter. Our players are better than the Hungarians. Our youth national teams are great. The manager and coaches have led us into this 100%. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadouken_ Posted June 23 Share Posted June 23 People moaning about how negative we are and our style and wanting Moyes or McInnes in. Hahahahahah. We deserve everything we get a country. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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