The_Kincardine Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 23 minutes ago, pandarilla said: It worries me greatly that so many people think this is a 'good' thing. That it's somehow progress.....I hope a cashless society is one that I never live to see. 19 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: I don't see the problem with it personally. As for the 'cashless society's' bit I'm all for it. queue. I'm absolutely with Pandy here. There's something sinister about money becoming simply a claim over who has custody over an electronic representation of a value. We should always have the capacity to have physical coin (while recognising that in itself is a token). For all practical purposes I'm cashless but want to retain the right to have cash. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Netan Sansara Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Think we'll go cashless at least in some aspects. If (when?) cryptocurrency becomes the defacto standard for online transactions we will likely see a rapid progression towards fully cashless. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerberus Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 How are you supposed to anonymously pay for a gas cooker in a cashless society? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 The proliferation of contactless has led to people paying absolutely no attention to the actual physical act of spending money, which is fine if you're the sort of imbecile who uses payday loan companies or have won the lottery, bit of a pisser for the folk in shops who have to chase after you while you're wearing headphones because the payment didn't go through for some reason. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Similar to the old 'CCTV' everywhere debate. People that come away with 'it's fine because I don't break the law' type responses are definitely missing the point. ^^ OFTW. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eoin Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 6 hours ago, DrewDon said: I laugh at people who tap 'Start' on self-service machines rather than just scanning their first item. I'm not sure whether it gets on my nerves, but I do think those people are morons. Usually quite elderly, too. If you dont hit start first on some of the asda ones, they glitch and you have to take the item back off the scales and put it on again 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Who benefits most from a cashless society? Banks, giant tech companies, and electronic payment providers. They shave a wee profit from every transaction. In terms of banks, they would have full control of your money. You couldn't take your money out - just shift it to another bank. All in all people at the bottom of society would be hit hardest. They lose even more control over their lives. The rich get richer, everyone else just nods along our gets shafted. The consumer benefits by dispersing with the time-consuming and cumbersome nature of carrying cash. We are at a point now where I went up to Sainsburys to but a few items and I didn't even bring my wallet as I had my phone with me. It's fantastically simple. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Just now, Jmothecat2 said: The consumer benefits by dispersing with the time-consuming and cumbersome nature of carrying cash. We are at a point now where I went up to Sainsburys to but a few items and I didn't even bring my wallet as I had my phone with me. It's fantastically simple. How the f**k are you meant to pay for your ching though? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/10/10/imagining-a-cashless-world 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Cashless transactions are brilliant. One of my mates only uses cash, doesn't do online banking or use contactless payments because "he doesn't trust them" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Kincardine Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 2 minutes ago, Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo said: How the f**k are you meant to pay for your ching though? An excellent point and one made by the pro-cashers and rightly so. There's also the issue of those at the bottom of the pyramid (as made by Pandi above). A couple of years ago I did a project for a City of London law firm and they 'promoted' a Big Issue seller each quarter and (s)he could stand in the staff canteen a day or two a week to sell the mag. They kitted him out with a card reader and laptop so that staff could use their canteen card to buy the paper using what the money they loaded it with. Thankfully they gave him cash at the end of the session. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Sanchez Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 14 minutes ago, Jmothecat2 said: The consumer benefits by dispersing with the time-consuming and cumbersome nature of carrying cash. We are at a point now where I went up to Sainsburys to but a few items and I didn't even bring my wallet as I had my phone with me. It's fantastically simple. What happens if the payment gets rejected? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MEADOWXI Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 On contactless payment When will they redesign the reader as to pay you have to place your card over the screen that says APPROVED I always have that doubt has it gone through yet and end up waiting till the assistant says OK half the time. Need the screen where you can see it when you put the card to it. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rugster Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 35 minutes ago, Eoin said: If you dont hit start first on some of the asda ones, they glitch and you have to take the item back off the scales and put it on again That's what you get for shopping in Asda. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joey Jo Jo Junior Shabadoo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 "Quarter of Soapbar? That'll be a packet of bacon, two boxes of Nurofen, 6 beers, a bottle of Buckfast, and a family pack of Walkers, please". "Have you got change, mate?" 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romeo Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 The "Pro cashers" can't count their money while listening to their gramophone before catching the trolley bus to see the latest Harold Lloyd epic. IMO 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandarilla Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 The consumer benefits by dispersing with the time-consuming and cumbersome nature of carrying cash. We are at a point now where I went up to Sainsburys to but a few items and I didn't even bring my wallet as I had my phone with me. It's fantastically simple. Cumbersome?Are you at the wind up again?If you're not I seriously despair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Cumbersome?Are you at the wind up again?If you're not I seriously despair. In comparison with contactless it is cumbersome. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 So if the cashers are scared of banks taking all their money, where do they keep their money now? In a biscuit tin under the floorboards? When my great grandmother died we found a bag full of £1 notes hidden inside her mattress. It was a few hundred pounds worth, all in £1 notes. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jmothecat2 Posted July 17, 2017 Share Posted July 17, 2017 Getting annoyed with my phone. I changed the order and organisation of my apps today to order them by frequency of use, on the recommendation of my wife who found my colour coding system to be odd (basically had folders and just put apps in depending on the colour) and useless. I can see the merit in her system but I'm finding it really hard to get used to. I'm used to going 'Twitter, blue folder' instead of 'Twitter, top of the list' for example and my thumb is naturally trying to go to the old placement. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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