Moomintroll Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 13 hours ago, Salvo Montalbano said: Thought there would be more comments about that first day. What a difference having a strong middle order can make. And when your bowling attack doesn't have depth the strike bowlers look pretty tired quite quickly. Have they prepared a road to help Crawley,Lees & Pope though? Matty Potts certainly got a reality check around Test Cricket yesterday, the Kiwis have worked him out pretty sharpish if it isn't a batters track. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 The proper England test team are back in the room. Fully expect 30/3 when their turn to bat comes. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Question starting to enter the equation is so NZ declare and if so when? 480/500 is well within reach currently so maybe through today and 10 overs tomorrow? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Orton Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 3 minutes ago, die hard doonhamer said: The proper England test team are back in the room. Fully expect 30/3 when their turn to bat comes. Hopefully this sees the end of Jack Leach, an utter wet wipe of a bowler. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 10 minutes ago, Tynie Tappertit said: Hopefully this sees the end of Jack Leach, an utter wet wipe of a bowler. Whilst I agree with you generally, any spinner is on a hiding to nothing bowling on day 2 at Trent Bridge. I’m really disappointed in Stokes’s situational awareness as captain. There’s absolutely a time and place for aggressive captaincy, and Root was generally too conservative, but Stokes needs to learn that there are times that you need to stem the flow of runs and build pressure that way. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin_Nevis Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 30 minutes ago, Tynie Tappertit said: Hopefully this sees the end of Jack Leach, an utter wet wipe of a bowler. He's awful, however I do enjoy see him getting smacked around the ground. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, Tynie Tappertit said: Hopefully this sees the end of Jack Leach, an utter wet wipe of a bowler. Looks like Mo is up for a return, so I'm a bit more relaxed about him getting hunted. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 So 1-1 then. What changes would people make for the deciding Test? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignoramus Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Leach getting lifted down the ground Viv Richards style by Trent Boult really drives home the point of what other countries think of him as a bowler 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 To absolutely no ones surprise, England 1 down already. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Nice innings from Popey, about time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moomintroll Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 7 minutes ago, Sir Tarmo said: Nice innings from Popey, about time. If Joe Root gets in he will take a big chunk out of Chefs lead. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 Nice innings from Popey, about time.Merely confirms they've prepared a dead flat batting track and once the ball is 15 or so overs old then any batsman of a half decent level can build a score 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boo Khaki Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 So are we getting an Inevitable England Batting Collapse tomorrow and a Follow-on, or an Inevitable England Batting Collapse on the final day once they've hauled themselves back into a 'statistically impossible to lose from here' position? My money is on tomorrow. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted June 11, 2022 Share Posted June 11, 2022 1 hour ago, jaggyness said: 2 hours ago, Sir Tarmo said: Nice innings from Popey, about time. Merely confirms they've prepared a dead flat batting track and once the ball is 15 or so overs old then any batsman of a half decent level can build a score This is an oval style road. Nice to see him actually building a decent innings though, I do fully believe he’s the long term option at 3, but he’s been horrifically mismanaged. Game has draw written all over it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Tarmo Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 6 hours ago, die hard doonhamer said: This is an oval style road. Nice to see him actually building a decent innings though, I do fully believe he’s the long term option at 3, but he’s been horrifically mismanaged. Game has draw written all over it. I agree, but I’ve seen enough England collapses on absolute motorways to be sure yet. India last year comes to mind. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 I know he got a very good delivery to dismiss him yesterday but surely Zak Crawley's time in the England team must be under threat again? The age old problem of who replaces him remains. Lees is a throwback to the Atherton type opener who just hangs around which there's absolutely a place for. Allows the better batsmen to be coming in and not have a new ball and scoreboard pressure to deal with 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 1 hour ago, jaggyness said: I know he got a very good delivery to dismiss him yesterday but surely Zak Crawley's time in the England team must be under threat again? The age old problem of who replaces him remains. Lees is a throwback to the Atherton type opener who just hangs around which there's absolutely a place for. Allows the better batsmen to be coming in and not have a new ball and scoreboard pressure to deal with Something that England seem to have forgot over the years is that although it's nice if your openers can score a few, it's more important that they hang around and kill the new ball for the guys coming after. How many times has Root come in with the score at 20 odd for 2? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 Another drop in the slips, Root the lucky recipient this time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
die hard doonhamer Posted June 12, 2022 Share Posted June 12, 2022 2 hours ago, jaggyness said: I know he got a very good delivery to dismiss him yesterday but surely Zak Crawley's time in the England team must be under threat again? The age old problem of who replaces him remains. Lees is a throwback to the Atherton type opener who just hangs around which there's absolutely a place for. Allows the better batsmen to be coming in and not have a new ball and scoreboard pressure to deal with His opening partner at Kent is the obvious choice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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