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2 hours ago, Freedom Farter said:

Sunak and Starmer have finally now called for a ceasefire. Perhaps this announcement tipped the scales:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-67748605

Whoa, this is affecting business?

For the love of God, surely there must be some way to keep mass-murdering civilians without any change in the transfer of currency and goods.

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Now that oil company profits are being hit causing prices to rise, coordinated action has been taken by the UK establishment today. BP made their announcement, Sunak called for a ceasefire followed by Starmer and a number of Tory MPs spoke out. Presumably, the idea was to pressure USA into movement and if so, it worked. USA has now announced it will use military force to end the Yemeni blockade. It'll be supported by UK, Bahrain, Canada, Greece, Netherlands, Norway and Seychelles. It would've been better if USA instead got Israel to stop their ethnic cleansing of Gaza, which the Yemeni blockade is in protest at, but that isn't how things work. The option that maximises military spending and arms companies' share prices is always chosen.

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I was watching a thing about Custer today and was struck by the similarities in the US founding myth and how Israel behaves. The US stole the land of the Native Americans, committed genocide, depicted them as blood-thirsty savages (terrorists?) and aided the settlers at every turn. The US had a huge military advantage that was used to slaughter the natives whilst using the press to portray the psychopaths as national heroes.

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17 minutes ago, Newbornbairn said:

The US had has a huge military advantage that was is often used to slaughter the natives whilst using the press to portray the psychopaths as national heroes.

To be honest, not a lot has changed too often.

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I've no idea of the religious orientation of this family but one of the girls being called Maria suggests they were possibly Christian, killed at Christmas. Foreign media can't enter Gaza due to the intensity of the bombing so there's no confirmation of these girls' deaths from BBC or the like. Various native Gazan sources have reported it, though, the networks Wafa and Quds as well as multiple independent journalists. The girls' mother, grandmother, aunt, uncle and cousins were also killed by the same airstrike.

I'm entirely speculating based on a single photo but its possible this family were of reasonable wealth level by Gazan standards. Maybe the girls' father had more extensive contacts in his local area due to his higher level in the economy of that area, therefore news of the murder of his family more easily spread and made it into the media. The majority of Gazan victims we don't see or read about. I remember reading a report from a foreign journalist surveying the scene of a Gazan school that'd been bombed by Israel in 2014. They wrote how the "charred corpses of donkeys" were lying at the front gates of the playground. That's how poor many Gazans are. They don't escape the airstrikes in vehicles but on a cart pulled by donkeys.

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South Africa has filed a case with the ICJ alleging genocide.

The section detailing genocidal statements from Israeli politicians and the IDF is really something people should be aware of. Put it in a spoiler due to the volume of it.

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47 minutes ago, virginton said:

A helpful reminder that 'war crimes' only count if a US' client statelet is on the receiving end, rather than perpetrating them:

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2024/jan/10/israel-murdering-palestinian-journalists-in-gaza

 

Comes on the back of Lord Cameron (lol) being unsure if turning the water off and refusing the turn it back on was a war crime...

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Even by the despicably low standards of the British media, it is outrageously brazen bias from the BBC & Sky to have live coverage of the Israeli submission to the ICJ's genocide hearing yesterday, having largely ignored South Africa presenting their case yesterday. Sky did offer streaming on their YouTube channel yesterday, but both have had live footage today on TV while having none yesterday.

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On 14/01/2024 at 12:56, Dunning1874 said:

Sagiv Jehezkel who plays for Antalyaspor in Turkey was detained and thereafter released pending trial after he held up his bandaged hand with the words “100 days. 7/10” written on the bandage during a goal celebration.  

Turkey’s minister said an investigation has been launched due to the players “ugly action supporting Israel’s massacre in Gazza”

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3 hours ago, Shadow Play said:

Sagiv Jehezkel who plays for Antalyaspor in Turkey was detained and thereafter released pending trial after he held up his bandaged hand with the words “100 days. 7/10” written on the bandage during a goal celebration.  

Turkey’s minister said an investigation has been launched due to the players “ugly action supporting Israel’s massacre in Gazza”

He's effectively been deported, which saves everyone what would have been a ridiculous trial.

Turkey love making gestures (e.g. boycotting Ariel due to its perceived Jewishness) yet are absolutely fine with providing Israel with 40% of its oil.

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3 minutes ago, MazzyStar said:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-68025945

Israel has no intention of any peaceful solution, never has and likely never will. 

Israel has had political leaders who have attempted - and indeed were murdered - for pursuing a meaningful attempt at a peaceful solution. Its current leadership does not define its politics indefinitely.

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