Rudolph Hucker

F will be closer to the centre if that's where you want to be, but still only a maximum of around a third up the pitch if you sit as far right as possible. I don't imagine anyone sticking to specifically numbered seats, unless the stewards are particularly snotty or a seagull has crapped on it.

In the interests of balanced reporting it should be added that although we may have some arseholes on the pitch there are more than a few in the Cowshed and on P&B. Carry on....... ETA - wee rid dots from two of the usual po-faced suspects inside an hour of posting - looks like some wee ears were burning!

What a pile of utter self-indulgent crap. Absolute cringeworthy garbage. So let’s cut to the chase. There are two very straightforward issues here. First, the manager of this football club wished to sign a player. The player is a convicted sex offender who was punished for his crimes and has no history of re-offending. The board at the time, and presumably MCT who were about to take over the club, discussed the matter, gave the go-ahead and the player was signed. No comment regarding the player’s past was needed, nor was any offered. That’s how signings work. Clubs do not have to comment beyond the usual welcome-to-the -club platitudes; nor do they have to disclose who amongst the decision-makers was for or against the signing. It’s called collective responsibility and is common practice in business. The signing was mildly controversial amongst some of the support but that soon died down - with the exception of a few fans who refuse to let it go, you amongst them. One fan on the Morton board even ran a poll hoping to get an overwhelming majority voting against the signing, but when only a small number voted and voted roughly 3 to 1 in favour of the signing he quietly dropped it as he wasn’t getting the result he wanted. Second, the club has since felt it necessary to make two statements in support of their player. Again, they quite rightly did not address his offences because there is no need to do so; he was punished for his crimes and we all move on. The first statement was made in order to stop any repeat of a few numskulls singing a daft wee song that they thought was funny. The second was to condemn abuse aimed at the player after he had been sent off last weekend. And according to virginton that abuse came from one solitary fan. One. Solitary. Fan. That’s how low the level of feeling is that this matter generates now. The vast majority of the support don’t give Lithgow or any other player a moment’s thought between a quick chat about a Saturday game during the first teabreak at work on Monday and the naming of the team before the next game. These are the facts, plain and simple. I’m not emotionally involved in this matter at all, I’m simply stating the facts, All the posturing by the likes of you and vt is just mouth music, looking to make a non-issue into an issue. The more you regurgitate the same old lines the more you make yourself look a dick. That’s your prerogative, but it doesn’t have get bloody tedious.

The only braying, horseshit nonsense is coming from you and that other idiot. As I said above, away from these pages nobody cares about Lithgow except with regard to what he does on the park. If that continues to be as poor as it has been up till now then he’ll be away at the end of his deal. Gus may very well be away before then, but that will be dependant on not just results but whether we are still in the pack or are isolated at the bottom. The only thing certain is that it won’t be because of anything said on a football forum.

Wow, where do we start with this?? You admit that the club have issued two statements, yet then you immediately claim they haven’t addressed the issue…….. Jesus wept…….. A statement condemning fans’ behaviour was the right thing to do, and they’ve now done it - twice - but try thinking sensibly about it for once instead of emotionally. Do you really think Lithgow would want or welcome the club going into personal detail about him and his past offence? Of course not. Then the bit in bold - “They could draw a line under it.” They did. They signed the player and it was a done deal from then. No further comment needed. It’s only the abuse that he got for being stupidly sent off that has seen them, rightly, make a further statement. Look back at the pages on here relating to his signing. There was a small amount of debate and controversy about it which quickly died away. You are one of the few who continue to bore the tits off the rest of us by bringing it up on a regular basis. You are one of a few on here who attach far more importance to P&B and that moribund Morton forum than is justified. The reality is that only a small percentage of the support read this stuff, and even fewer post. Most fans don’t know or care that these sites exist. Many of them won’t know of Lithgow’s conviction or just don’t care; the only time he will get a thought from the casual supporter will be when a) he’s named in the team, b) when the game’s being played and c) when, like on Saturday, he does something that draws the attention. They only care about what he does on the park; the rest of the time they don’t give a toss, if you’ll pardon the expression, about Lithgow. The few posters who made an issue of this signing, and the even smaller number who think that getting some reaction on here is significant, are deluding themselves. Douglas Rae listened to a few of you re signing Lithgow a few years back, but you can’t run a football club that way and the new regime quite rightly made their decision and have stuck by it. No further comment needed from them……. Or from you. Let it go, you and vt can trumpet away on here but the truth is that nobody cares outwith these pages.

Don’t talk nonsense; they’re speaking out in support of their player. And don’t start off with this guff again - the guy is here for the duration of his contract. Nobody has to like what he did, but nor do we need you going on and on about it. Move on, ffs. More important issues than this to deal with at Cappielow.

Good to see Spoonsy is still kicking a ball. And anything he can do to keep that team off the Pertick Thistle media luvvie darlings route can only be a good thing.

I’d argue that it does make sense. The second point is an opinion on how he selects and sets up the team. The first is an opinion on how likely it is that the board will swing the axe. I think they’ll remain very reluctant to do so if we’re still in the pack. If at least three of those four teams are still separated by just one or two points he’ll still be here - as you say, if he can average a minimum of a point a game it’ll probably be enough for eighth place. I’m not saying it’s what I want to see as this season has been no fun for anyone, it’s just how I read the situation going forward.

There’s a lot to agree with re your second point, but I don’t agree with the first. The only way he’ll be under more pressure after those games is if we find ourselves four or more points adrift at the bottom. Some on here have been saying every week for the last six or more that “if he doesn’t get a win today that's it - he has to go”. If they keep it up then I suppose they have to be right sometime, but unless we’re at least a win and a draw behind the rest he’ll be here till January and maybe beyond, like it or not.

The “Yogi bounce” will probably last long enough to keep the Pars in mid-table, so automatic relegation will be one from Ayr, Hamilton, Morton or Queens. Fifteen games in and only one point separates them; in essence they are looking at a 21 game season starting from now. A wee good run or a wee poor run for any of them could be crucial to their fate - as could sticking with or sacking their current manager. It’s probably the fact that all four are equally rotten and grouped so close together that is keeping their managers in place right now, and I don’t think we’ll see any managerial changes until there are at least four points between bottom and second- bottom. Of the four, AJ at Queens seems to have the confidence of his board if not the fans, and Taylor at Hamilton has only been in post for a handful of games and is likely to be given time to maybe improve things. Of the other two, the fact that we gave Gus a two-year deal in the summer means we’d struggle to pay him off. Jim Duffy went to Ayr as an assistant saying that he didn’t want another job as manager, understandable after his health issue a couple of years back, and I believe his deal only runs till the end of the season. All things being equal you’d think the Duff most likely to be the one to be sacked or to stand down, but as I said a couple of results poorer than the rest and any one of them will be in more danger. Seems ridiculous at this stage of the season, but for the fans of all four teams every game is squeaky bum time right now.

OK, fair enough. What are your thoughts on Rapunzel-haired fitba’ fans in anoraks?

I’ve been saying that for weeks. Two goals off bottom, one point off sixth. Any of those teams could end up bottom though Dunfermline might pull away a bit for a while. Glad someone else has woken up and smelt the crappy.

The thing the baby Jesus was placed in since there was no room at the inn? Gee, thanx for that - none of us had the answer to it, great to have your input to clear it up for us! Hang on though - that question mark at the end - you weren’t telling us, you were asking us. That figures.

Doesn't sound as if there'll be 7 minutes of stoppage time needed this week..... Having said that, as it stands I'll be happy if Killie are timewasting towards the end today....

Oh I understand perfectly well how fan ownership works. That's why when it was first mooted I immediately understood that once it was in place every decision that certain fans didn't like would lead straight away to calls for a review or some sort of referendum before it could be confirmed. A system that could never work if it was run that way. And it didn't take long for me to be proven right. ..... ^^^ and here's a prime example of it. It IS indeed a small but vocal minority. As far as I'm aware only a fairly small percentage of the support actually listen to the podcasts and only a small number of them continue to raise this issue. That's what constitutes "a small minority". So you think it was a cowardly act to sign Lithgow? I'd say that, if anything, it was a pretty brave decision, taken for the benefit of the squad by a group who were not even confirmed as the club owners at the time. The rest of that post is simply an emotional irrelevance - apart from the fact you use the term "sexual assault" again. The only person he touched was himself - I think you could be on dangerous ground using that term. The point I'm making, which you both seek to ignore, is this - MCT make decisions that they think are for the best. Those decisions CANNOT and should not be balloted before they are taken, that just isn't practical in the real world. No matter how much you two and a few others scream and stamp your little feet the decision to sign Lithgow was taken and any further comment on it from MCT would be superfluous and simply keep the mater dragging on. Change what you cannot accept, fine. But accept what you cannot change.

They’re quite right too. They have to be left to make their decisions; just because you and a few others (and it IS just a vocal minority) don’t like it or agree with it doesn’t mean you should continually drag it up. It’s a done deal, you don’t have to like it but you do have to accept it. The guy was found guilty of what he was charged with and was given what was deemed an appropriate punishment. (And as far as I’m aware, though, he did not sexually assault anyone. You want to be careful there.).. It was years ago. He seems to be rehabilitated. It’s also months ago that we signed him. Let him get on with his life, and I suggest you get on with your own.

That’s obviously a big result for us and a slap in the coupon for the Pars, but in the grand scheme of things Ayr in 6th place are only 6 points ahead of Dunfermline, with 69 points still to play for. Any of those 5 teams - half the league - could easily end up in the bottom 2 places, given a poor run, and if, IF, Dunfermline break with tradition and appoint the right guy it’ll be game on for all of us. Please make a mess of it - again.

It wouldn’t be pretty to watch but at the mo I’d settle for that this season……. I don’t think “enjoy the ride” would come into it much though.

Bloody hell,we’re gonna actually win a game! AND we’ve actually scored three times as many goals in this game than we did in the whole of October! Feckin’ YEEHAH…….

If it’s any consolation, it’s now 1-1 at Palmerston.……..but since they’re playing Raith I don’t suppose it’s THAT much of a consolation…….

Ah well, back to ninth. C’mon Muirhead…….

Migawd, as things stand we’re up to 7th and I’m getting a nosebleed……. And we’ve still got Muirhead’s goal to come…….

So, what’s your thoughts on this boy Cole then?

yadda, yadda, yadda…… Don’t be stupid. Nothing said on here can or will have any effect on what clubs do. And you’re only speaking for yourself. Stop now.