kennie makevin

My head's in a spin trying to keep up with the 'Celtic family's' take on Mr Lennon. Use to be that the mildest bit of criticism of Neil would lead you to be accused of being a hysterical anti-Catholic bigot who had such a problem with Irish people that you'd throw your daughter down the stairs (providing you didn't live in a bungalow) if she brought home someone called Seamus. Now if you try and send a little compliment or two Mr Lennon's way you're a 'moonhowler'. Come on bhoys , a wee bit of consistency please.

Why would I try to troll the terminally humourless that constitutes your average Old Firm supporter ? I'm merely pointing out the blindingly obvious about the Celtic manager and, in a spirit of genuine concern, putting forward one, albeit radical, solution. If you lack the decency to accept my offer of help with the respect in which it was offered to you then I can but apologise. However, if you think Postegoclu can lead Celtic anywhere other then down the plughole of European irrelevancy then, parhaps, you should take a step back and learn a bit about football !!

The conundrum that confronts the Celtic board going forward is that they now have two managers. There's Ange Postegoclu - Big Ange, Inventor of 'Ange Ball', slayer of 'the 10', serial trophy winner, undisputed master of Scottish football - and then there's Ange Postegoclu - inflexible rabbit caught in the European headlights, unable or unwilling to change tactics against continental opposition, serial loser in Europe, the undisputed donkey of European football. So which one do they stick with. ? It's a toughy alright. There is, as someone pointed out, a treble to be won, a feat that would reverberate around the football world and which Ange Postegoclu, with his trusty Angeball will surely deliver. However that means the doppleganger of disaster called Ange Postegoclu would also stick around to lead the 'bhoys' ever further into the European wilderness. Maybe the answer is to retain Angeball for domestic duties, but replace Ange Postegoclu for European competition with a personality more suited, more seasoned, more successful , in the specific demands of the European stage. Step forward Celtic's new 'European Nights' manager - Mr Neil Lennon !!!

Of course it was. You've a manager who seems incapable, over the course of two seasons, of adapting his team to European football. We all had a jolly good giggle at Van Bronkhorst but his European record while manager of Rangers is better than Postegoclu at Celtic.

Oh come on now, you really think you should be getting rid of big Ange. ?? After all he did in stopping 'the 2".

That was only when the cup winners had also won the league so went into the Champions Cup. As was the case in 1971 when Celtic won the double and Rangers as beaten cup finalists went in the CWC, which they won.

Admirable sentiments ! Keep up the good work.

I support or want to support a decent, healthy, competitive Scottish football set-up but due to the existence of two vile institutions who have peddled religious division and secterian tribalism as a business model for a century that doesn't seem possible. And it's not a grudge against Glasgow Celtic and Glasgow Rangers. It's just that they are two football clubs who thrive on a fanbase of bigots. I happen to find that repulsive. Sorry if that bores you. But I certainly won't take orders from a Celtic or Rangers fan. Give me some credit. !!

And neither being the country they play in. !

Oh, that's alright then. !

I wouldn't say he was that wonderful. Gordon always too eager to scramble on the 'Celtic/Rangers reaching the group stages of the CL is great for Scottish football' bandwagon of utter shite for my liking.

Celtic will win this game with pointless ease, emphasis on will.

..........and don't like the look of each other

Good man. It should be incumbent on all managers of the non-sectarian clubs to highlight the financial disparity whenever they play the Old Firm, regardless of the result. We know that Sportsound, Clyde, the papers are only interested in financial fairplay when the bigots get horsed in Europe and won't mention it in a domestic contex. But it needs bringing up constantly in order to correctly deligitimise any so called Celtic or Rangers 'acheivement'. On this topic the rest of us should 'never stop !!'

You're 'memes' , if that's what they're called, need to be less opaque for simpletons like myself . Not just me but our good friend Lionsof67 thought you were dissing Mr Lennon with the use of the eyebrow raising Gif (parhaps that's what they're called). Anyway there is plenty I might take issue with regarding Neil Lennon but not his record as a Celtic manager in Europe. He certainly didn't display the naivety of the current incumbent who through either stubbornness or stupidity seems to think that what works so effortlessly for Celtic in Scotland will do the same for them in Europe despite an ever increasing body of evidence to the contrary .

To suggest that in the season that a Celtic manager gets them into the knock out stages of the Champions League he cannot (for that season alone - not in perpetuity) be classed as a Champions League level manager is the kind of nonsense that a rabid anti-Celtic zealot like myself might come up with. That such a devout keeper of the scrolls of Celtic faith as Jinky 67 is the one to espouse such defamation stuns me, shocks me, leaves me questioning the very foundations of all I hold true. Jinky is a heretic (with the emphasis on 'tic'). Roll Over Brother Walfrid and Tell Willie Maley The News. !!!

Regardless of how they turned out when time and the changing power structure of European football caught up with them, in the seasons that Strachan & Lennon got Celtic out of the CL group stages they merited being classed a Champions League level manager. How they turned out is not the point here. Celtic, for example were a Champions League level side in those years, they clearly are not now.

At the time when he took Celtic out of the group stages, of course he was. For whatever season that was. The boy done good , as they say on the streets of Linlithgow.

So you'd have to say if you're being generous that Gordon Strachan and Neil Lennon fulfilled that criteria and, if only for a short period, were of Champions League standard. Parhaps there is an argument for Martin but not sure of any other Celtic manager in the CL era.

No.

Aye, whatever. The fact that the opposition are generally of a higher standard means less time for strikers to convert, obviously. As the Celtic forwards are not Champions League standard they invariably fail to convert chances they routinely score in the domestic game. TBF, It may be a mental thing but as Postegoclu is not a Champions League standard coach/manager he is unable to do anything about it. Can't be helped. Nobody's fault. It's just the way things are and always will be; for as long as Glasgow Celtic play in Scottish football they will be unable to attract the players or coach of the standard required.

Celtic ' being poor in front of goal' is a direct result of the fact that 'the players fundamentally weren't good enough' for the Champions League. And, as the table tells us, Celtic were NOT competitive at all.. Liz Truss levels of denial , mate !

There's a 'hardcore of posters' , to coin a phrase, who understandably are desperate for Scotland to have a 'marquee world class' player in the team. I'd love it too but the reality is we haven't had one of those since Dalglish, and he didn't always turn it on for Scotland. We look at other similar or smaller, sized countries over the years and wish we could, just once, produce a Roy Keane, a Bale, a Haaland...After all football's a bigger deal to us than it is to the Irish, to the Welsh or to the Norwegians..... can't we please have a game changing superstar of our own ?? I think that's behind the overinflating of our very good players, which has reached a peak with the Billy Gilmour hysteria.

Celtic to win, Celtic fans to cry about the pitch, the match officials, VAR, the reformation, the lack of an 25 ft statue of Sir Robert Kelly in George Square, the lens cap not being removed from the TV camera at the 1957 League Cup final , not being allowed to have a kick about in Dam Square, the term 'Old Firm' , and many, many more perfectly reasonable gripes. Good auld Celts !!!

Would that be Mosley or Lee Harvey. ?