Michael W Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Different vibe this season in the stands. Everyone seems much more together. A change was needed, and we got it. I don't think you can argue there is anything more to it than that. Murray went into last season having a record of 3 wins out of the last 20 league matches of the season. Yes, we won the Ramsdens, but we weren't far off being in 9th place. Murray was under serious pressure from the fans and that wasn't forgotten about during the close season. We started well but did our usual and slumped, with a good period of form just after Christmas coming on the back of some terrible form. Things then dipped again towards the end and Murray was dismissed. Even if we ignore the management issue, look at last season's squad and now. I think I was miffed to see Hill go (although I understood the reasons behind it) and also was disappointed with Paul Watson. Lo and behold, we don't miss either of those two players at all. There are still issues with the squad but the most important aspect is that we don't miss anyone who isn't here and the current squad is an improvement. Only a fresh pair of eyes would've made the changes that have occurred. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
baillieinleeds Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Different vibe this season in the stands. Everyone seems much more together. It's just a pity we're not filling the South stand bi monthly, Ray has definitely brought back a goo...... Better not finish that. We need to get the seats filled and pronto. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paco Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Stop wetting the bed about crowds. If your ex-wife treats you like shit for three years, just because you have a cracking night together doesn't mean you start planning another kid. The crowds will come. 4000+ on Saturday, hopefully. The Great Raymondo to pull another trick from the subs bench to win the game again, hopefully... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Yesterday was a game Murray would have seen out for 0-0. Not oor Ray. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 No draws in 10 league games. Murray cherished a draw like no other. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I like Murray and it's quite a shame he gets as big a bashing as he does. He did win us a cup against rangers giving everyone a great day out and keep us safe in the league. He was also a good player for us. Its about time some fans let go off all the negatives around his reign and looked at him in a good light which he does deserve after his service to the club. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbykdy Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 As a player Murray's contribution was great and even for a lot of the time when he was manager I defended him thinking what more could be done with the resources he had? McKinnon however has shown what can be done, he is a manager who will always try to win games and while we may end up losing a few as a result of this I would rather have that approach than the terrified of losing a point one Murray used to take. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rrfsee Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 A change was needed, and we got it. I don't think you can argue there is anything more to it than that. Murray went into last season having a record of 3 wins out of the last 20 league matches of the season. Yes, we won the Ramsdens, but we weren't far off being in 9th place. Murray was under serious pressure from the fans and that wasn't forgotten about during the close season. We started well but did our usual and slumped, with a good period of form just after Christmas coming on the back of some terrible form. Things then dipped again towards the end and Murray was dismissed. Even if we ignore the management issue, look at last season's squad and now. I think I was miffed to see Hill go (although I understood the reasons behind it) and also was disappointed with Paul Watson. Lo and behold, we don't miss either of those two players at all. There are still issues with the squad but the most important aspect is that we don't miss anyone who isn't here and the current squad is an improvement. Only a fresh pair of eyes would've made the changes that have occurred. You also have to praise the board for 1. Making a management change 2. Getting the right man. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grumswall Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 As a player Murray's contribution was great and even for a lot of the time when he was manager I defended him thinking what more could be done with the resources he had? McKinnon however has shown what can be done, he is a manager who will always try to win games and while we may end up losing a few as a result of this I would rather have that approach than the terrified of losing a point one Murray used to take. I'm not saying anything contrary to that. But he has given us all good memorise (and bad), whether it be playing or otherwise. Im far from a Murray fanboy. But now that we are in the next stage of the club we should give him the credit he deserves, rather than think of him as a failure as he quite frankly wasn't in the grand scheme of things. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raithie Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Seems the Flyers are going through their own 'Murray' period just now. Seen a few folk on Facebook saying they'd rather spend their money going to Starks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael W Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) You also have to praise the board for 1. Making a management change 2. Getting the right man. Indeed. even though our negative reaction poo-pooed their first choice (allegedly) Seems the Flyers are going through their own 'Murray' period just now. Seen a few folk on Facebook saying they'd rather spend their money going to Starks. Edited October 18, 2015 by Michael W 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Seems the Flyers are going through their own 'Murray' period just now. Seen a few folk on Facebook saying they'd rather spend their money going to Starks. Was going to comment on this. Good news for ourselves. Hopefully if it's a split decision between the two, our form will tempt people. I still feel we've yet to see the best of the ability of this Rovers team. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 It's Sunday and Im totally buzzing for the next game. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zen Archer (Raconteur) Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Seems the Flyers are going through their own 'Murray' period just now. Seen a few folk on Facebook saying they'd rather spend their money going to Starks. At least it will be warmer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pub car king Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 The thing with Murray is that he did his management apprenticeship under Mcglynn who I will be eternally grateful too for sorting out the team and certain sections of the club. However Murray shared some of his traits such as useless substitutions and at times brutal football. I think history will be kinder to Murray than we are being now as it was the right decision to change the manager 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIT THE CHANNEL Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Another fantastic interview from Ray Mac. Buzzing for next week! It will be a very difficult game but if we are as resolute as we have been hopefully we nick a result, 1-0. In terms of games we need to get points out of, livi away the following week is very important. This week it's a bit of a free hit. COYR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 I like Murray and it's quite a shame he gets as big a bashing as he does. He did win us a cup against rangers giving everyone a great day out and keep us safe in the league. He was also a good player for us. Its about time some fans let go off all the negatives around his reign and looked at him in a good light which he does deserve after his service to the club. I think it's natural to compare what is happening now to the previous regime and Murray is coming out of that unfavourably. In time the standard of performance we produced under him will be forgotten and his cup win and run of 6th and 7th place finishes will be considered relatively successful. Seems the Flyers are going through their own 'Murray' period just now. Seen a few folk on Facebook saying they'd rather spend their money going to Starks. I noticed they had fallen to the bottom of the league. It seems pretty clear that Kirkcaldy can't support two successful sporting teams so hopefully we can reverse some of the drift to the Flyers that has occurred in the last couple of years. Another fantastic interview from Ray Mac. Buzzing for next week! It will be a very difficult game but if we are as resolute as we have been hopefully we nick a result, 1-0. In terms of games we need to get points out of, livi away the following week is very important. This week it's a bit of a free hit. COYR Also looking forward to this match. As you say there is no real pressure on us. Who could have seriously envisaged us having 21 points at this stage of the season? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ro Sham Bo Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Anyone received the letter from the manager today via email? Another bit of good PR from the club. They are also making Vaughan and Callachan available for autographs and pictures before the Hibs match on Saturday 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wullie McNaught Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Anyone received the letter from the manager today via email? Another bit of good PR from the club. They are also making Vaughan and Callachan available for autographs and pictures before the Hibs match on Saturday Yeah I received that email. All positive stuff. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Yep same. Brilliant stuff. Loving going to the games right now. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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