renton Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, Ro Sham Bo said: He's probably scored less than 10 goals in 3 years since then and looked hopeless against us in the Scottish Cup. He'd maybe make a lively impact sub but that's about his limit these days. Surplus of pace though, would be an interesting signing at this level. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Been going too long Posted June 8, 2019 Share Posted June 8, 2019 6 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said: FeB would be unreal in League 1 surely, tore it up last time. Victoria is rather meh considering your ambitions. McGeever and Ross Kavanagh are shite. Wouldn’t worry yourself about our ambitions I heard you offered Davo a contract !! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mealsonwheels Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 14 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said: FeB would be unreal in League 1 surely, tore it up last time. Victoria is rather meh considering your ambitions. McGeever and Ross Kavanagh are shite. I won't be passing judgment on any player until he has at least had a couple of games for the rovers. We have seen it time and time again when a player comes without recommendation and smash it like Dalziel, Nisbet, Tade, Then on the flip side we bring in a player like Buchanan who over the previous 5 seasons was smashing them in and he struggles with consistency. We also had Wighton on loan. We all got excited about his prospect and tbh he was a total dud of a signing. All in all I will support any signing made by Mcglynn 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1320Lichtie Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 Wouldn’t worry yourself about our ambitions I heard you offered Davo a contract !!We need a defender to sit on the bench I suppose but dunno if he's even good enough for that. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Specky Ginger Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 5 hours ago, 1320Lichtie said: We need a defender to sit on the bench I suppose but dunno if he's even good enough for that. I'd have thought Davidson was the archetypal Dick Campbell signing - Over 30? tick Fifer? tick Double figure yellow cards each season? tick Not sure what you're waiting on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Been going too long Posted June 9, 2019 Share Posted June 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Specky Ginger said: I'd have thought Davidson was the archetypal Dick Campbell signing - Over 30? tick Fifer? tick Double figure yellow cards each season? tick Not sure what you're waiting on. When you put it like that:-) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broken Algorithms Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Val McDermid in the papers today saying that when she was on the board, she suggested Shelley Kerr for manager when she was at Stirling Uni (funnily enough I'm pretty sure Enigma mentioned her at the time as a potential candidate) but the board at the time rolled a lot of excuses. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 To be honest, there's no way we should have been appointing the manager of an decent Lowland League side when we were then a Championship club. If she had left Stirling Uni and went on to do well at League 1 or even League 2 level, for example, then fair enough. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harry94 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 3 minutes ago, CALDERON said: To be honest, there's no way we should have been appointing the manager of an decent Lowland League side when we were then a Championship club. If she had left Stirling Uni and went on to do well at League 1 or even League 2 level, for example, then fair enough. It seems a bit dickish of her to come out and basically publicly imply the other board members were being sexist about it. I don't know if she has other grievances but it just seemed an odd way to present it, she could have easily just said that they discussed the idea but didn't see her as experienced enough in the environment Raith are operating in. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beachbum Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, harry94 said: It seems a bit dickish of her to come out and basically publicly imply the other board members were being sexist about it. I don't know if she has other grievances but it just seemed an odd way to present it, she could have easily just said that they discussed the idea but didn't see her as experienced enough in the environment Raith are operating in. ..... and so they handed the job to Gary F Locke. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R.FC Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, CALDERON said: To be honest, there's no way we should have been appointing the manager of an decent Lowland League side when we were then a Championship club. If she had left Stirling Uni and went on to do well at League 1 or even League 2 level, for example, then fair enough. 100% this. The selection process for any job should be based on their abilities to do the job. Race/gender or anything else shouldn’t even come into it. I would have no problem with Shelley Kerr or any women managing the Rovers at some point in the future if they have the track record elsewhere. However, they have to get the job on merit and shouldn’t be given some sort of preferential treatment because they’re female. Kerr had a decent but unspectacular record at Stirling Uni, certainly nobody would be calling for a man with the same record at the same club to be considered for the Rovers job so I don’t see why it should have been any different with a female. Edited June 10, 2019 by R.R.FC 14 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheevedawg Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 I'm hoping they do a snazzy reveal video the morn of the 4 that are signing. Did we have it confirmed that they're all new players and not just players that we've already offered contracts to (i.e. Dave McKay). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 Val McDermid in the papers today saying that when she was on the board, she suggested Shelley Kerr for manager when she was at Stirling Uni (funnily enough I'm pretty sure Enigma mentioned her at the time as a potential candidate) but the board at the time rolled a lot of excuses.I did indeed! Not ITK unfortunately, just a good judge. As per Chicago Fire when they signed Schweinsteiger, that could have been us in the World Cup! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Enigma Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 However, they have to get the job on merit and shouldn’t be given some sort of preferential treatment because they’re female. Kerr had a decent but unspectacular record at Stirling Uni, certainly nobody would be calling for a man with the same record at the same club to be considered for the Rovers job so I don’t see why it should have been any different with a female.She’d won two FA cups and a WSL cup as manger too of course... but nah Gary Locke. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R.FC Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 minutes ago, Enigma said: She’d won two FA cups and a WSL cup as manger too of course... but nah Gary Locke. She was also managing the most successful women’s team in the UK. I don’t know a great deal about the circumstances in which she took the job but looking at the stats she didn’t actually do a great job with Arsenal when you compare her record to what they won before and after hence why she resigned after a poor league start. Someone like Scott Booth won 4 consecutive women’s Premier League titles and a cup with over an 80% win rate as manager with Glasgow. Yet we all know how he got on at Stenhousemuir. If Kerr had done something spectacular with Stirling Uni I’d have hoped she would’ve been considered. However, she did not and there was nothing on her CV to suggest she’d be the standout candidate for a Championship team (at the time). She probably still would have been better than Gary Locke though, you are right. However, there are several managers overlooked for Locke who I would have preferred ahead of Kerr. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 (edited) 6 minutes ago, R.R.FC said: She was also managing the most successful women’s team in the UK. I don’t know a great deal about the circumstances in which she took the job but looking at the stats she didn’t actually do a great job with Arsenal when you compare her record to what they won before and after hence why she resigned after a poor league start. Someone like Scott Booth won 4 consecutive women’s Premier League titles and a cup with over an 80% win rate as manager with Glasgow. Yet we all know how he got on at Stenhousemuir. If Kerr had done something spectacular with Stirling Uni I’d have hoped she would’ve been considered. However, she did not and there was nothing on her CV to suggest she’d be the standout candidate for a Championship team (at the time). She probably still would have been better than Gary Locke though, you are right. However, there are several managers overlooked for Locke who I would have preferred ahead of Kerr. In fairness there are unidentifiable things that wash up on beaches that I'd have preferred to Locke for the job. Edited June 10, 2019 by renton 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CALDERON Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 25 minutes ago, Enigma said: She’d won two FA cups and a WSL cup as manger too of course... but nah Gary Locke. Stirling Uni just finished 3rd the season before Val was talking about, 17 points behind the champions. Based on current league standings, that's the equivalent of Ayr United hiring the manager of Kelty Hearts this season. Val Mcdermid is implying in that article that the only reason she wasn't considered is because of her gender. Obviously we don't know if that played a part in some board members thinking, but there were plenty other of reasons at the time as to why she shouldn't have been considered. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
raith1974 Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Sheevedaw said: I'm hoping they do a snazzy reveal video the morn of the 4 that are signing. Did we have it confirmed that they're all new players and not just players that we've already offered contracts to (i.e. Dave McKay). They are all new players well one returning player from a few years ago. It may be though we announce others resigning at the same time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.R.FC Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 So going by the rumours the 4 new signings are McGeever, Spencer, Anderson and Victoria? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
renton Posted June 10, 2019 Share Posted June 10, 2019 6 minutes ago, raith1974 said: They are all new players well one returning player from a few years ago. It may be though we announce others resigning at the same time. Oh gee, well there's a cryptic clue. Gosh, I wonder who that could be, wow, will be scratching my head at that.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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