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2 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:

When asked about being called a racist, Morrissey said: “If you call someone racist in modern Britain you are telling them that you have run out of words. You are shutting the debate down and running off. The word is meaningless now. Everyone ultimately prefers their own race … does this make everyone racist?”

 

Not a patch on "I was looking for a job and then I found a job and heaven knows I'm miserable now" but I suppose he has to appeal to his dwindling audience these days.

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Not a patch on "I was looking for a job and then I found a job and heaven knows I'm miserable now" but I suppose he has to appeal to his dwindling audience these days.


A lot of his fanbase is Mexican these days; I presume they're just happy to see someone being racist to someone who's not them.
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There's a maxim which goes something like "Whatever is said while drunk was rehearsed while sober." Being steaming may account for Clapton saying those things but it doesn't excuse him thinking them. If he's changed his views in later life then good for him, I suppose.

I've given up reading too much about the lives of people whose work I enjoy, biographies and whatnot. I'm almost invariably disappointed when I discover what canutes they really are/were.

 

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2 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

There's a maxim which goes something like "Whatever is said while drunk was rehearsed while sober." Being steaming may account for Clapton saying those things but it doesn't excuse him thinking them. If he's changed his views in later life then good for him, I suppose.

I've given up reading too much about the lives of people whose work I enjoy, biographies and whatnot. I'm almost invariably disappointed when I discover what canutes they really are/were.

 

I totally agree with the first part, not sure about the second part.

I think there’s an obligation to call out and condemn people who’s work we admire.

Like many others I love watching Messi but he’s a tax dodging wee p***k.  I’d love to see him or others like him getting the jail rather than having to pay a large fine and back tax.

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I don't disagree with your point GD. People being talented in a certain field shouldn't enable them to live under different rules than the rest of us.

As an example of what I'm talking about though...a while back I read a biography of Steve McQueen. Until then, I didn't know he was a wife-beating, serial adulterer who was an absolute arsehole on the set. Many actors and directors refused to work with him because of his behaviour. I've admired him since I was a little kid but not now. Basically, I would've been happier not knowing that.

That's not going to stop me watching The Great Escape whenever it's on though.

 

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1 hour ago, coprolite said:

Been watching all of the Harry Potter films with the kids over lockdown. People keep saying he has his mothers eyes, which has given me a mental image of the end of Hotshots and made me chuckle every single time. DAx5vX2VYAAMS5h.jpg.4e81494f3f7d7acb18f73ccaa619b9a2.jpg

I prefer the Addams Family line.

"Gomez, take those out of his mouth"

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17 minutes ago, Shotgun said:

I don't disagree with your point GD. People being talented in a certain field shouldn't enable them to live under different rules than the rest of us.

As an example of what I'm talking about though...a while back I read a biography of Steve McQueen. Until then, I didn't know he was a wife-beating, serial adulterer who was an absolute arsehole on the set. Many actors and directors refused to work with him because of his behaviour. I've admired him since I was a little kid but not now. Basically, I would've been happier not knowing that.

That's not going to stop me watching The Great Escape whenever it's on though.

 

There were a couple of programmes about Peter Sellers on BBC2 last night. Came across as a bit of a monster towards his many wives and kids. Even wrote letters to his kids suggesting they change their surnames and that he no longer considered himself to be their father. Re-wrote his will too to give everything to his 4th wife. His 4th heart attack finished him off (aged 54).

 

 

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4 hours ago, Bigmouth Strikes Again said:

When asked about being called a racist, Morrissey said: “If you call someone racist in modern Britain you are telling them that you have run out of words. You are shutting the debate down and running off. The word is meaningless now. Everyone ultimately prefers their own race … does this make everyone racist?”

Oh, you’re at it. Sorry, I thought you genuinely believed this shite, but nobody would post someone confessing their racism as evidence that they are, in fact, not a racist.

Good luck with trolling Granny with it, though.

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21 minutes ago, BigFatTabbyDave said:

Oh, you’re at it. Sorry, I thought you genuinely believed this shite, but nobody would post someone confessing their racism as evidence that they are, in fact, not a racist.

Good luck with trolling Granny with it, though.

Not trolling anyone Dave, just stating the facts, if you don't like it, just stick me on ignore, probably for the best.

Thank you.

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