kiddy Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 (edited) Nothing between the top 2. The ITT may hold the key to this years win. Pog tried sandbagging near the end, then is matched when he opened up the attack in the last km. 1st ever GT stage win for Wout Poels! Edited July 16, 2023 by kiddy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salvo Montalbano Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 59 minutes ago, kiddy said: Nothing between the top 2. The ITT may hold the key to this years win. Pog tried sandbagging near the end, then is matched when he opened up the attack in the last km. 1st ever GT stage win for Wout Poels! Was surprised when I saw him struggling the other day as he was always one of the strongest domestiques for Sky and I think he's led teams in some minor races. Good to see him (and Kwiatkovski the other day) getting some big wins. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnash Posted July 16, 2023 Share Posted July 16, 2023 Awesome stage. Watching the GC battle in the last 5km was mesmerising. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 Away from the TdF, in the least surprising turn of events this year, Lefevre has upset Remco who is now angling to leave and join, if rumours are to be believed, either Ineos or Israel PT 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 17, 2023 Share Posted July 17, 2023 3 hours ago, jaggyness said: Away from the TdF, in the least surprising turn of events this year, Lefevre has upset Remco who is now angling to leave and join, if rumours are to be believed, either Ineos or Israel PT He's apparently signed until 2026, with no break clause. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaggyness Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 13 hours ago, kiddy said: He's apparently signed until 2026, with no break clause. Yeah but there's almost certainly a way they can part. If rumours are true and Remco is on c€4m per year there's no way that Lefevre can carry that with an unhappy rider 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 C'est fini. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Brightside Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Was that a bit too good from Vingegaard? 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 6 minutes ago, Mr. Brightside said: C'est fini. Barring a crash you would think so, that was an absurd ride by Vingegaard 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 4 minutes ago, Mr. Brightside said: Was that a bit too good from Vingegaard? Nearly three minutes ahead of WVA in a twenty-two mile time-trial? Dodgy IMO. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Have some faith in Magic Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 19 minutes ago, printer said: Nearly three minutes ahead of WVA in a twenty-two mile time-trial? Dodgy IMO. 7.5ish seconds quicker per Km 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
printer Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 minutes ago, Have some faith in Magic said: 7.5ish seconds quicker per Km I'd like to see an estimate of his power output. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarto Mutiny Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 2 hours ago, printer said: Nearly three minutes ahead of WVA in a twenty-two mile time-trial? Dodgy IMO. Not even Armstrong or Indurain were winning time trials by that margin. It whiffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 (edited) Unbelievable, as Greg Lemond might say. Considering Pogacar was 2nd , & topped WVA’s fastest time by 1.12. (staggering in itself) He himself was bested by 1.38. Vingegaard almost caught the guy 3rd in GC for 4 mins, over 22.4km! From 3rd-8th was covered by 30 secs & 40 to 10th. Just let that sink in. 3rd on GC is now 8.52 back. It harks back to the Giro, where Thomas finished 2nd in the ITT, only to ship 40 secs to Roglic, who had a mechanical, whilst pipping Almeida by 2 secs. Whatever JV are doing, it seems more than marginal gains over the rest of the worlds best riders. For some strange reason, I keep seeing Landis grinning fizzog, in my head! It’s like the pic of Lewis looking over to Johnson, as if to say ‘WTF is he on? Cause it’s better than my stuff!’. Edited July 18, 2023 by kiddy 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 3 hours ago, printer said: I'd like to see an estimate of his power output. He thought his meter was broken! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 It’ll take something far greater than Froome @Bardonecchia, to turn this round. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peasy23 Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 5 minutes ago, kiddy said: He thought his meter was broken! You've got to be a little suspicious when the rider himself can't comprehend the numbers he is putting up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Just take into account Pog’s time gap over Wout, was with a bike change included! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiddy Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 52 minutes ago, kiddy said: It’ll take something far greater than Froome @Bardonecchia, to turn this round. Just as I spoke of that, look what came up in my twitter feed! https://twitter.com/jumbovismaroad/status/1000105610489286662?s=46&t=za8h55kV-Xo6wZ3boaqGGg 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnash Posted July 18, 2023 Share Posted July 18, 2023 Vingegaard is suspicious for sure. Regardless of what 'assistance' he may or may not have had, it's disappointing for the race as a whole because barring something very odd he's already won it. 56 minutes ago, kiddy said: Just take into account Pog’s time gap over Wout, was with a bike change included! But the point of the bike change was to go faster up the hill to more than offset the time taken to make the change. Whether that worked is debatable. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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