Super Tuesday Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 56 minutes ago, btb said: If Gallacher did go for a decent fee (the asking price was £750k last January IIRC) might the club rethink scrapping the youth set-up? Nope, the CEO doesn't want it. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrbairn Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Dear Santa,Could you please give Don Hartley at least two players who are good at putting the football in the opponents net? We don't have any at the minute 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 4 hours ago, btb said: If Gallacher did go for a decent fee (the asking price was £750k last January IIRC) might the club rethink scrapping the youth set-up? Are u on drugs ? We would be lucky to get four figures for Gallagher at present... Still standing firm on my opinion that to have a development policy, you have to have a manager that buys into it, under Houston we didn't, not blaming him for that, the board hold the blame......the remit for expense to the team is firmly accountable to them and they continually funded Houston under circumstances where we had mission impossible in achieving what the budget given 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofabairn Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 (edited) 41 minutes ago, MrDust said: Are u on drugs ? We would be lucky to get four figures for Gallagher at present... Still standing firm on my opinion that to have a development policy, you have to have a manager that buys into it, under Houston we didn't, not blaming him for that, the board hold the blame......the remit for expense to the team is firmly accountable to them and they continually funded Houston under circumstances where we had mission impossible in achieving what the budget given Aye £19.99 and we've won a watch. Can't see us picking up money for any of the dross - more likely spend a fortune paying them off. Let's hope for some inspired recruitment from PH, which I seriously doubt given his record at Dundee. Merry Xmas Edited December 25, 2017 by Bofabairn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harry Kinnear Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Merry Christmas to all my fellow Bairns. Here's hoping Santa delivers us some decent players. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Happy Birthday Bairns even Marshy 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Back Post Misses Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Probably the thick end of 300k a year on wages for that dug shite. And the rest £600/week is nearly 400k 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigbrbairn Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Did anyone get a 20 goal a season striker for Xmas that they don't want? If so could you drop it off at the Falkirk Stadium 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gav-ffc Posted December 25, 2017 Share Posted December 25, 2017 Merry Xmas to all bairns apart from Paul Watson and Alex Harris. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiDB Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 On 24/12/2017 at 10:43, roman_bairn said: Well you need to sign better players than we already have. So far Hartley has signed Louis Longridge.... Interesting article here re Hartley’s signings whilst at Dundee.https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/teams/dundee/judging-all-44-of-paul-hartley-s-dundee-signings-1-4422618 On the same link, there's an analysis of almost every managers signings, none of them are great viewing to be fair. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 On the same link, there's an analysis of almost every managers signings, none of them are great viewing to be fair. True. But it’s only the quality of Hartley’s signings that matters. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KiwiDB Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 5 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: True. But it’s only the quality of Hartley’s signings that matters. Yeah but context is always helpful. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Yeah but context is always helpful. Ok let’s say he brings in eight new signings in January.Proportional to that report maybe one or two would turn out to be good signings. Indeed maybe one of them will be a very good signing!However 5 or 6 will end up being duffers.Not really what we are looking for if we are to avoid the playoffs.I will be delighted if he proves me wrong here but again, I think those expecting a positive revolution in January are being a tad optimistic. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Lecturer Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Correct, just take a look at yogi or elvis’s lists. Time will tell. Only 5 days till the window opens and I’m looking forward to new faces and seeing the back of others heads. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Go and look at Sir Alex Fergusons list in that context, or Arsene Wengers... Every manager has signed many duffers. Its a pretty meaningless list and I am surprised and football fan is overly concerned about his hit/miss ratio. I imagine it to be in line with the majority of managers tbh. The only anomoly in the case of Hartley is he seems to go for that number of transfers in a shorter time Again you are making the same point as the previous poster. My point is that he needs to make a higher proportion of good signings in January that he has done to date if we are to progress adequately.We could look at Houston’s signing record on here and make the very same point but he was rightly hammered on here for so many poor signings.Why are so many on here ready to give Hartley the benefit of the doubt when so far we have probably gone backwards under his stewardship and his signings record does not look great? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerthewitness Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 18 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: Again you are making the same point as the previous poster. My point is that he needs to make a higher proportion of good signings in January that he has done to date if we are to progress adequately. We could look at Houston’s signing record on here and make the very same point but he was rightly hammered on here for so many poor signings. Why are so many on here ready to give Hartley the benefit of the doubt when so far we have probably gone backwards under his stewardship and his signings record does not look great? Would you rather he made no signings and tried to work with the current squad? I'm prepared to give Hartley the benefit of the doubt because we have no choice but to trust him. We're in a scrap and the only chance we have involves bringing in a few new faces who can get the job done. We'd be bottom right now if Raith were still in this league. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvio Tattiescone Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Are we likely to see new faces for the game against the Pars? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Would you rather he made no signings and tried to work with the current squad? I'm prepared to give Hartley the benefit of the doubt because we have no choice but to trust him. We're in a scrap and the only chance we have involves bringing in a few new faces who can get the job done. We'd be bottom right now if Raith were still in this league. Don’t think I have said that. It rather looks like given the morale and lack of real motivation of some of the players changes are needed. I had hoped we would have seen a reversal of this under a new manager.It’s just that I believe our prospects of avoiding the playoffs are not high and that I have been unimpressed with the progress we have seen under Hartley to date.The majority on here seem to believe that we will easily escape that fate once a whole bunch of new players come in.We are now favourites with the bookmakers to finish ninth so I am not alone in my thinking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BountyBairn Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 26 minutes ago, roman_bairn said: Again you are making the same point as the previous poster. My point is that he needs to make a higher proportion of good signings in January that he has done to date if we are to progress adequately. We could look at Houston’s signing record on here and make the very same point but he was rightly hammered on here for so many poor signings.Why are so many on here ready to give Hartley the benefit of the doubt when so far we have probably gone backwards under his stewardship and his signings record does not look great? Personally? Hope mainly. Totally get what you are saying however...Been truly depressing to watch us this season, so I’ll happily delude myself that it’s going to get better until such point as it’s clear we’re out of space to fix things. Football should come with an investment warning - ‘past performance is not an indicator of future returns’. Just like players, managers can come good (hopefully Hartley) and turn bad (See Houston) at points. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roman_bairn Posted December 26, 2017 Share Posted December 26, 2017 Personally? Hope mainly. Totally get what you are saying however...Been truly depressing to watch us this season, so I’ll happily delude myself that it’s going to get better until such point as it’s clear we’re out of space to fix things. Football should come with an investment warning - ‘past performance is not an indicator of future returns’. Just like players, managers can come good (hopefully Hartley) and turn bad (See Houston) at points. I am with you on this.I totally hope that my low expectations are proved wrong and that Hartley turns out to be a much better manager than I perceive him to be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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