19QOS19 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 We have, an he's absolutely not fine at championship level. He had a good 6 months at championship level with St Mirren, from January onwards he scored 2 league goals for them, in a team that was winning the championship. His career since then has seen that record continue. He's got more on his record suggesting that he's not good enough for championship level, than he does pointing the other way. For Dunfermline he scored one goal over a whole season...He's played roughly 120 games at Championship level and scored 37 goals. Averages about a goal every 4 games. It's not prolific (which no one is arguing) but it also doesn't scream "He isn't good enough". I don't know what the average strike-rate is for strikers at that level but I'd imagine 1 in 4 is about average at worst. He's fine at Championship level regardless of how shite he was when he was with Dunfermline. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) I'd take 3 loan signings in Ewan Henderson from Celtic, Glen Middleton from Rangers and Dapo Mebude from Rangers. All very talented youngsters who we could offer game time to develop. January's usually riddled with duds so loan signings for me would probably be a better option. Henderson and Middleton were on loan in the Premiership last season but struggled for game time so albeit it would be a big stretch to drop down to league 1 but why not if they are going to get first team football? Edited January 5, 2021 by FFC 1876 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 minute ago, 19QOS19 said: 11 minutes ago, Grant228 said: We have, an he's absolutely not fine at championship level. He had a good 6 months at championship level with St Mirren, from January onwards he scored 2 league goals for them, in a team that was winning the championship. His career since then has seen that record continue. He's got more on his record suggesting that he's not good enough for championship level, than he does pointing the other way. For Dunfermline he scored one goal over a whole season... He's played roughly 120 games at Championship level and scored 37 goals. Averages about a goal every 4 games. It's not prolific (which no one is arguing) but it also doesn't scream "He isn't good enough". I don't know what the average strike-rate is for strikers at that level but I'd imagine 1 in 4 is about average. He's fine at Championship level regardless of how shite he was when he was with Dunfermline. We'll see, I highly doubt it. His goalscoring record(especially recently) could be negated if he was contributing with regards to link up but that's not happening. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bairn88 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 5 minutes ago, FFC 1876 said: I'd take 3 loan signings in Ewan Henderson from Celtic, Glen Middleton from Rangers and Dapo Mebude from Rangers. All very talented youngsters who we could offer game time to develop. January's usually riddled with duds so loan signings for me would probably be a better option. Henderson and Middleton were on loan in the Premiership last season but struggled for game time so albeit it would be a big stretch to drop down to league 1 but why not if they are going to get first team football? Henderson and Middleton? This has to be a troll 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, bairn88 said: Henderson and Middleton? This has to be a troll Listen I'm well aware those two are far fetched but why not, they are both youngsters who we could give game time to improve. Otherwise they'll just sit not getting game time for the rest of the season. Edited January 5, 2021 by FFC 1876 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 2 hours ago, ebobsboy said: If last January's transfer window is anything to go by and given what has already been said by the management team in terms of ins and outs I think we are in for an underwhelming month. With that pair in charge it'll be more than a month I'm afraid. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Grant228 said: We have, an he's absolutely not fine at championship level. He had a good 6 months at championship level with St Mirren, from January onwards he scored 2 league goals for them, in a team that was winning the championship. His career since then has seen that record continue. He's got more on his record suggesting that he's not good enough for championship level, than he does pointing the other way. For Dunfermline he scored one goal over a whole season... You could say exactly the same for Declan McManus. His scoring record at championship level is honking. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoBNob Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 13 minutes ago, Shadwell Dog said: You could say exactly the same for Declan McManus. His scoring record at championship level is honking. Some respect for the championship top scorer please. In all seriousness, Declan McManus though has been very adequate for us as a second striker, hopefully supporting a main goalscorer. While he might not be scoring goals he's still doing something to impact the game. Gavin Reilly? If he ain't scoring he isn't contributing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 9 minutes ago, Grant228 said: Some respect for the championship top scorer please. In all seriousness, Declan McManus though has been very adequate for us as a second striker, hopefully supporting a main goalscorer. While he might not be scoring goals he's still doing something to impact the game. Gavin Reilly? If he ain't scoring he isn't contributing. To me they're both ok championship strikers and no more. McManus puts a shift in but his goal stats are honking and his assists stats are nothing special. Reilly probably has a slightly better scoring record having at least made double figures twice but that's nowt special in the championship. Probably worth a shot in league one but who knows. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrDust Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Marshmallo said: Gavin Reilly released by Carlisle by mutual consent. Worth taking a look at I'd say. Not a player I rated at all but he could possibly be our best striker if signed really says it all in how I rate our current strikers 1 hour ago, FFC 1876 said: Listen I'm well aware those two are far fetched but why not, they are both youngsters who we could give game time to improve. Otherwise they'll just sit not getting game time for the rest of the season. More chance of getting Ozil or Dele Ali on loan 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Fitzgerald Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Listen I'm well aware those two are far fetched but why not, they are both youngsters who we could give game time to improve. Otherwise they'll just sit not getting game time for the rest of the season. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FFC 1876 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, Shadwell Dog said: To me they're both ok championship strikers and no more. McManus puts a shift in but his goal stats are honking and his assists stats are nothing special. Reilly probably has a slightly better scoring record having at least made double figures twice but that's nowt special in the championship. Probably worth a shot in league one but who knows. Mcmanus has 6 goals and 4 assists for Dunfermline this season in 10 games. Mcmanus is miles better than Gavin Reilly. Reilly for me is more on Bob Mchugh's level but even then that's probably doing Mchugh a disservice. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Mcmanus has 6 goals and 4 assists for Dunfermline this season in 10 games. Mcmanus is miles better than Gavin Reilly. Reilly for me is more on Bob Mchugh's level but even then that's probably doing Mchugh a disservice. Reilly >>> McHugh. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parsforlife Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Just to remind everyone that Queens fans are nearly always wrong about the ability of players and not to treat their opinions seriously They rate Paul burns ffs. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitbafollower Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Reilly to Livingston with Sibbald 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
19QOS19 Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Just to remind everyone that Pars fans completely discredit the ability of players if they were shite for them. -1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadwell Dog Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 hour ago, FFC 1876 said: Mcmanus has 6 goals and 4 assists for Dunfermline this season in 10 games. Mcmanus is miles better than Gavin Reilly. Reilly for me is more on Bob Mchugh's level but even then that's probably doing Mchugh a disservice. His previous goalscoring record at championship level is dreadfully poor though. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainrod Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 3 hours ago, Shadwell Dog said: With that pair in charge it'll be more than a month I'm afraid. I understand it’s win on Saturday or they walk . Now not sure what result I want ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawson Park Boy Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 1 minute ago, Stainrod said: I understand it’s win on Saturday or they walk . Now not sure what result I want ? Can you reveal the source of your understanding? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stainrod Posted January 5, 2021 Share Posted January 5, 2021 Just now, Dawson Park Boy said: Can you reveal the source of your understanding? Wouldn’t be appropriate but it was from a source who has a son on the board - and one I trust 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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